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| + | * Wills & additional documentation to<br> 1)clarify relationship of Elizabeth Vogele to Peter Vogele and Bernard Vogele; <br>2) determine parentage of Peter& Bernard Vogele; <br>3) determine surname of Barbara, wife of Bernard Vogele. | ||
| + | * Locate burial site of Peter Vogele; Bernard Vogele. | ||
| + | * Examine ships lists for Philadelphia for immigration evidence. | ||
Latest revision as of 09:42, 2 January 2008
The parentage of Elizabetha Vogele is not fully resolved. Her father appears to be either Peter or Heinrich Vogele, and her mother either Elizabeth Marz or Barbara unknown, possibly Barbara Marz. Elizabetha Vogele's death record at the Lehigh Church indicates 1st) that she was the wife of Johan Jacob Klein; 2nd) that her birth date was (calculated from age at death) 22 Mar 1775; 3rd) that her parents were Peter Vogele & Elisabeth Marz; and 4th) that Elizabeth Marz was deceased at the time of Elizabeth's death; this last notation implies that Peter Vogele was still alive. (The Marz (Martz) surname is familiar, found among neighbors of the Klein descendants living in Clarion Co. PA two generations later.)
The baptismal records of the Lutheran and Reformed churches, however, reveal a mystery. Our Klein family of Macungie Twp., Lehigh Co. PA attended the Lehigh Church, also called the Zion's Lutheran Church. The Reformed congregation was located neaby, across the Berks County line, in Longswamp Township, and was attended by the Vogele family. In the Longswamp records, an Elizabetha Vogele was born 10 Mar 1775 to a Heinrich & Barbara Voegele, with Peter Vegly & Elisabeth Mertz as sponsors. This date corresponds within 12 days of the calculated date from Elizabetha Vogele Klein's death record. The only record found for baptism of an Elizabetha born to Peter Vogele & wife is dated 18 July 1784.
(For complete biographical notes, please go to Peter Vogele Biography)
| Date | Location | Notes | Sources | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Birth | See Source Notes | |||
| Marriage | expect before 1775 | possibly Longswamp Church or Lehigh church | To Elisabeth Marz | [1] |
| Death | after 1810 | [1] | ||
| Burial | expect Longswamp Church (Reformed), Berks Co. PA |
[edit] Ancestry chart segment
Generation 7 Generation 8
+-- Peter Vogele
| (????->1810)
Elizabetha Vogele --+
(????-????) |
+-- Elisabeth Marz
(????-1810)
Sources:
[edit] Children
(Children for whom Longswamp baptismal records list parents Peter & Elisabetha Vogele.
(More than one Peter & Elisabeth Vogele couple appear in Longswamp records after 1799, so younger children's parentage uncertain.)
| Name | Gender | Date of Birth | Birthplace | Spouse | Notes | Sources |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Elizabetha Vogele | F | calc 22 Mar 1775 or 10 Mar 1775 | Johan Jacob Klein | Direct Line | [1] | |
| David Vogele | M | 23 May 1779 | bapt. sponsor was Elizabeth Mertz | [2] | ||
| Anna Maria Vogele | F | 30 Mar 1782 | expect Jacob Druckenmiller/Truckenmiller | bapt. sponsors were Philip & Eva Mertz | [1][5] | |
| Elizabetha Vogele | F | 1784 | possibly Berhard Finley | were bapt. sponsors for Elizabeth Klein, dau. of Elizabetha Vogele & Johan Jacob Klein | [1] | |
| Christian Vogele | M | 1787 | [2] |
[edit] Places of Residence
| Location | Dates | Notes | Sources |
|---|---|---|---|
| either Longswamp Twp., Berks Co. PA or Macungie Twp., Lehigh Co. PA | [1][2] |
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[edit] Sources
| Ref. Num. | Description | Image of original |
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| 1 | Records of Lehigh Church/Zion's Lutheran Church
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see Records of Lehigh Church/Zion's Lutheran Church |
| 2 | Church Records of the Longswamp Reformed Church 1748-1810, Located at Longswamp Township, Berks County Pennsylvania, March 1982, by Warren J. Ziegler, Milford NJ 08848. Manuscript folder #78, Longswamp Twp. section, Berks County Genealogical Society Library, Kutztown University, Kutztown PA. . "Baptisms herein were transcribed from (LDS-produced microfilm) presented to the Evangelical & Reformed Historical Society. The Marriage Records of Rev. John H. Hellfirch were found in a publication of the Genealogical Society of Pennsylvania."
BAPTISMAL RECORDS, children of Peter Voegele & wife Elisabetha:
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See additional Longswamp Reformed Church Records. |
| 3 | Personal correspondence from Elizabeth Wilson Williams | |
| 4 | Fran Hazen Bean, correspondence 1990-continuing, re. descendants of Reuben Kline; ancestors of John Klein & Anna Fenstermacher in Lehigh Co. PA & Germany. | |
| 5 | Letters of Administration, Johannes Klein 1808. On 15 Aug. 1808 Jacob & Nicholas Kline, yowmen of Macungie Twp., say to George Hine, Deputy Register, that they are the sons of John Kline, and that he died without a will. Jacob & Nicholas are named administrators; Jacob Truckenmiller of Upper Milford Twp., mill wright, and John Heinly of Macungie Twp., yowman, are also included in a bond for 600 Pounds to the Commonwealth for the administration of the estate. All four signed the document. The inventory, written in German & presented on 19 Aug. 1808, is signed by John Heinly and Jacob Truckenmiller. A short document in German naming Catharina Klein (wife of) Johannes Klein, signed on 20 Aug. 1808 by Catharina Klein. See transcription, and originals. | (Scans of Documents) |
[edit] Source notes
- The records of Longswamp Reformed Church list an Elisabetha Voegele born 10 Mar 1775 to parents Heinrich & Barbara Voegele, with Peter Vegly & Elisabeth Mertz as sponsors. This birth date corresponds within 12 days to the birth date calculated from the death record for "Elizabeth Klein nee Vogele, wife of Johan Jacob Klein, the daughter of Peter Vogele & Elizabeth Marz". It has to be wondered whether her parents were Heinrich & Barbara, who then died leaving her to be raised/adopted by her sponsors, Peter Vogele & Elizabeth Marz.
From the recording of their names as Peter Vegly & Elisabeth Mertz, (as the baptismal sponsors in 1775), one might conclude that they were not yet married at that time; however, the death record for Elisabetha Vogele also records her mother's name as Elizabeth Marz, rather than her married name, Vogele.
Peter Vogele & wife do have a daughter Elisabetha in the baptismal records at Longswamp, but she was baptized 18 July 1784, so must be a different child from Elisabetha of the death record, wife of Johan Jacob Klein.
The Longswamp records list 5 children for Heinrich & Barbara Voegele. Ten children are listed for Peter & Elisabetha Voegele, but this appears to include the children of two couples. There is a marraige record for a P. Vogele & Elisabeth in 1799, and in that same year 2 David Vogele's were born, one on 23 May and one on 7 November. Both have parents listed as Peter & Elisabetha. For more complete listings see Longswamp Reformed Church Records
- That Anna Maria, wife of Jacob Truckenmiller/Druckenmiller, could be a sister of Elizabetha Vogele is supported by these items:
* Anna Maria Voegele b. 30 Mar. 1782, to Peter Voegele & wf., sponsors Philip & Eva Mertz.
* Salome Klein born May 6, 1808, bapt.July 24, 1808; Nicolaus Klein & Maria, parents; Jacob Truckenmiller & Maria, sponsors.
* Susanna Klein b. Apr. 27, 1798, bapt. June 24, 1798, Jacob Klein & Elisabetha, parents; Jacob Druckemiller & Anna Maria, sponsors.
Anna Maria could also be a sister of Johan Jacob Klein and Nicolaus Klein; however no birth record of an Anna Maria Klein being born to Johannes Peter Klein has been found. - Line by line search of the 1790, 1800 and 1810 census records for Macungie Twp, Northampton Co, PA yielded no clear results for Peter Vogele under any name variant. An Ancestry.com search of the entire county for first name Peter gave no clear choice. Although there are Peter Fegele (1800), Peter Fogel (1810) and others who could be our ancestor, the ages and children are not consistent with previous information and the data are not sufficient to make a choice. Longswamp Twp. Berks Co PA was also searched without useful results.
- The Lehigh Church records show multiple David Vogele baptisms, in 1779, 1790, 1804, & 1808.
- The Longswamp Church records show baptismal sponsors who may to be of the same generations as Peter Vogele and Elisabeth Marz: Christian, Heinrich, Philip, Abraham, Conrad , Mariga (with Christian Ritz, married in 1805), Magdalena.
- One John Nicholas Voegels was born 1784 to Joh. Bernard & Elizabeth Voegels, p. 15, baptisms of Upper Milford Reformed Congregation, now Zion's Reformed Church at Zionsville
[edit] Conjecture
(Vogele adults who serve as sponsors for the children of Elizabetha Vogele & Johan Jacob Klein; possibly Elizabetha's siblings, or cousins)
| Name | Gender | Date of Birth | Birthplace | Spouse | Notes | Sources |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Heinrich Vegli | M | Margaretha | sponsor 1795 of Gabriel Klein Elizabeth Mertz sponsors their child Elizabetha, 1810 |
[1] | ||
| Philip Vegli | M | Elisabetha | sponsor 1799 of Philip Klein | [1] | ||
| Margaretha Fogeli | F | (sponsor with Salmon Heynle) | sponsor 1803 of Lidia Klein This Margaretha may be the wife of Heinrich Vegli/Voegele |
[1] | ||
| Abraham Vogly | M | (sponsor with Catharine Desh) | sponsor 1805 of Catherine Klein | [1] |
(Unnamed wife of Johann Kieser served as sponsor for a child of Elizabetha Vogele & Johan Jacob Klein. Mrs. Kieser is possibly a sibling of either Elizabetha Vogele or Johan Jacob Klein.)
| Name | Gender | Date of Birth | Birthplace | Spouse | Notes | Sources |
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| "wife" | F | Johann Kieser | sponsor 1819 of Judith Klein | [1] |
[edit] Research
For Vogele source material not yet linked to this family, please see Vogele Research.
[edit] Research Wishlist
- Wills & additional documentation to
1)clarify relationship of Elizabeth Vogele to Peter Vogele and Bernard Vogele;
2) determine parentage of Peter& Bernard Vogele;
3) determine surname of Barbara, wife of Bernard Vogele. - Locate burial site of Peter Vogele; Bernard Vogele.
- Examine ships lists for Philadelphia for immigration evidence.
