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The parentage of Elizabetha Vogele is not fully resolved. Her father appears to be either Peter or Heinrich Vogele, and her mother either Elizabeth Marz or Barbara unknown, possibly Barbara Marz. Elizabetha Vogele's death record at the Lehigh Church indicates 1st) that she was the wife of Johan Jacob Klein; 2nd) that her birth date was (calculated from age at death) 22 Mar 1775; 3rd) that her parents were Peter Vogele & Elisabeth Marz; and 4th) that Elizabeth Marz was deceased at the time of Elizabeth's death; this last notation implies that Peter Vogele was still alive. (The Marz (Martz) surname is familiar, found among neighbors of the Klein descendants living in Clarion Co. PA two generations later.)

The baptismal records of the Lutheran and Reformed churches, however, reveal a mystery. Our Klein family of Macungie Twp., Lehigh Co. PA attended the Lehigh Church, also called the Zion's Lutheran Church. The Reformed congregation was located neaby, across the Berks County line, in Longswamp Township, and was attended by the Vogele family. In the Longswamp records, an Elizabetha Vogele was born 10 Mar 1775 to a Heinrich & Barbara Voegele, with Peter Vegly & Elisabeth Mertz as sponsors. This date corresponds within 12 days of the calculated date from Elizabetha Vogele Klein's death record. The only record found for baptism of an Elizabetha born to Peter Vogele & wife is dated 18 July 1784.

(For complete biographical notes, please go to Peter Vogele Biography)

	Date	Location	Notes	Sources
Birth			See Source Notes
Marriage	expect before 1775	possibly Longswamp Church or Lehigh church	To Elisabeth Marz	^[1]
Death	after 1810			^[1]
Burial		expect Longswamp Church (Reformed), Berks Co. PA

[edit] Ancestry chart segment

Generation 7            Generation 8
                        
                    +-- Peter Vogele
                    |   (????->1810)       
Elizabetha Vogele --+                     
(????-????)         |                         
                    +-- Elisabeth Marz
                        (????-1810)

Sources:

[edit] Children

(Children for whom Longswamp baptismal records list parents Peter & Elisabetha Vogele.
(More than one Peter & Elisabeth Vogele couple appear in Longswamp records after 1799, so younger children's parentage uncertain.)

Name	Gender	Date of Birth	Spouse	Notes	Sources
Elizabetha Vogele	F	calc 22 Mar 1775 or 10 Mar 1775	Johan Jacob Klein	Direct Line	^[1]
David Vogele	M	23 May 1779		bapt. sponsor was Elizabeth Mertz	^[2]
Anna Maria Vogele	F	30 Mar 1782	expect Jacob Druckenmiller/Truckenmiller	bapt. sponsors were Philip & Eva Mertz	^[1][5]
Elizabetha Vogele	F	1784	possibly Berhard Finley	were bapt. sponsors for Elizabeth Klein, dau. of Elizabetha Vogele & Johan Jacob Klein	^[1]
Christian Vogele	M	1787			^[2]

[edit] Places of Residence

Location	Dates	Notes	Sources
either Longswamp Twp., Berks Co. PA or Macungie Twp., Lehigh Co. PA			^[1][2]

[edit] Photo Gallery

[edit] Sources

Ref. Num.	Description	Image of original
1	Records of Lehigh Church/Zion's Lutheran Church Burial Service by Pastor Heinrich Heine: "Elisabeth Klein, nee Vogele, wife of Johan Jacob Klein, dau. of Peter Vogele and Elisabeth Marz, the later deceased. Date: February 23, 1810, Age: 34-11-1." Baptismal record for Susanna Klein born Apr. 27, 1798, baptized June 24, 1798; parents Jacob Klein & Elisabetha; sponsors Jacob Druckemiller & Anna Maria. Baptismal record for Salome Klein b. 6 May 1808, bapt. 24 July 1808, parents Nicolaus Klein & Maria; sponsors Jacob Truckenmiller & Maria. Baptismal record for Anna Maria Voegele b. 30 Mar. 1782, to Peter Voegele & wf., sponsors Philip & Eva Mertz. Elisabeth Klein born July 25, 1808, bapt. Sept. 4, 1808; parents Jacob Klein & Elisabeth; sponsors Berhard Finley & Elisabeth.	see Records of Lehigh Church/Zion's Lutheran Church
2	Church Records of the Longswamp Reformed Church 1748-1810, Located at Longswamp Township, Berks County Pennsylvania, March 1982, by Warren J. Ziegler, Milford NJ 08848. Manuscript folder #78, Longswamp Twp. section, Berks County Genealogical Society Library, Kutztown University, Kutztown PA. . "Baptisms herein were transcribed from (LDS-produced microfilm) presented to the Evangelical & Reformed Historical Society. The Marriage Records of Rev. John H. Hellfirch were found in a publication of the Genealogical Society of Pennsylvania." MARRIAGE RECORD: 1799 P. Vogele married Elisabeth ____. (Note: This appears to be a Peter Vogele & Elisabeth, different from our Direct Line couple.) BAPTISMAL RECORDS, children of Peter Voegele & wife Elisabetha: (Note: Beginning in 1799, there are 2 couples named Peter & Elisabeth Vogele) David Vogele 23 May 1799 Peter Voegele & Elisabetha, sponsor Elisabeth Mertz (Note: sponsor is the mother, or possibly the grandmother?) David Vogele 7 Nov 1779 Peter Voegele & Elisabetha, sponsor Joh. Peter Diehl (Note: this child apparently born to the couple married in 1799.) (no name translated) 1780 Peter Voegele & Elisabetha, sponsors David & Elisabetha Burger Anna Maria Voegele 1782, Peter Voegele & wf., sponsors Philip & Eva Mertz (Note: Philip Mertz possibly a brother of the mother, Elisabeth Marz.) Elisabetha Voegele 18 July 1784, Peter Voegele & wf., sponsors Henrich Muller & Sybilla Burkhardt Christian Voegele 1787 Peter Voegele & Elisabetha, sponsors Christian & Susanna Maria Vogele David Vogele 1804 Peter Voegele & Elisabetha, sponsors David & Susanna ____ Ruben Voegele 1806, Peter Boegele & Elisabetha; sponsors Philip Drescher & Catharina Ge___(single) OTHER RECORDS for Peter Vogele & Elisabetha as baptismal sponsors: 1790 baptismal sponsors for Georg Borger 1808 baptismal sponsors for Sarah Lohrmann 1779 baptismal sponsors for Joh. Peter Diehl 1799 baptismal sponsors for Elisabeth Mertz Longswamp Church Records FTM, Church Records: Selected Areas of PA, 1600s-1800s; Berks County, Vol 2, Longswamp. (Forwarded in correspondence of Richard C. Kelm, 2000). Elisabeth Voegely daughter of Henrich and wife Barbara, b. March 10, 1775, bapt. April 16, 1775. Sponsors: Peter Voegely and Elisabetha Mertz.	See additional Longswamp Reformed Church Records.
3	Personal correspondence from Elizabeth Wilson Williams
4	Fran Hazen Bean, correspondence 1990-continuing, re. descendants of Reuben Kline; ancestors of John Klein & Anna Fenstermacher in Lehigh Co. PA & Germany.
5	Letters of Administration, Johannes Klein 1808. On 15 Aug. 1808 Jacob & Nicholas Kline, yowmen of Macungie Twp., say to George Hine, Deputy Register, that they are the sons of John Kline, and that he died without a will. Jacob & Nicholas are named administrators; Jacob Truckenmiller of Upper Milford Twp., mill wright, and John Heinly of Macungie Twp., yowman, are also included in a bond for 600 Pounds to the Commonwealth for the administration of the estate. All four signed the document. The inventory, written in German & presented on 19 Aug. 1808, is signed by John Heinly and Jacob Truckenmiller. A short document in German naming Catharina Klein (wife of) Johannes Klein, signed on 20 Aug. 1808 by Catharina Klein. See transcription, and originals.	(Scans of Documents)

[edit] Source notes

The records of Longswamp Reformed Church list an Elisabetha Voegele born 10 Mar 1775 to parents Heinrich & Barbara Voegele, with Peter Vegly & Elisabeth Mertz as sponsors. This birth date corresponds within 12 days to the birth date calculated from the death record for "Elizabeth Klein nee Vogele, wife of Johan Jacob Klein, the daughter of Peter Vogele & Elizabeth Marz". It has to be wondered whether her parents were Heinrich & Barbara, who then died leaving her to be raised/adopted by her sponsors, Peter Vogele & Elizabeth Marz.
From the recording of their names as Peter Vegly & Elisabeth Mertz, (as the baptismal sponsors in 1775), one might conclude that they were not yet married at that time; however, the death record for Elisabetha Vogele also records her mother's name as Elizabeth Marz, rather than her married name, Vogele.
Peter Vogele & wife do have a daughter Elisabetha in the baptismal records at Longswamp, but she was baptized 18 July 1784, so must be a different child from Elisabetha of the death record, wife of Johan Jacob Klein.
The Longswamp records list 5 children for Heinrich & Barbara Voegele. Ten children are listed for Peter & Elisabetha Voegele, but this appears to include the children of two couples. There is a marraige record for a P. Vogele & Elisabeth in 1799, and in that same year 2 David Vogele's were born, one on 23 May and one on 7 November. Both have parents listed as Peter & Elisabetha. For more complete listings see Longswamp Reformed Church Records

That Anna Maria, wife of Jacob Truckenmiller/Druckenmiller, could be a sister of Elizabetha Vogele is supported by these items:
* Anna Maria Voegele b. 30 Mar. 1782, to Peter Voegele & wf., sponsors Philip & Eva Mertz.
* Salome Klein born May 6, 1808, bapt.July 24, 1808; Nicolaus Klein & Maria, parents; Jacob Truckenmiller & Maria, sponsors.
* Susanna Klein b. Apr. 27, 1798, bapt. June 24, 1798, Jacob Klein & Elisabetha, parents; Jacob Druckemiller & Anna Maria, sponsors.
Anna Maria could also be a sister of Johan Jacob Klein and Nicolaus Klein; however no birth record of an Anna Maria Klein being born to Johannes Peter Klein has been found.
Line by line search of the 1790, 1800 and 1810 census records for Macungie Twp, Northampton Co, PA yielded no clear results for Peter Vogele under any name variant. An Ancestry.com search of the entire county for first name Peter gave no clear choice. Although there are Peter Fegele (1800), Peter Fogel (1810) and others who could be our ancestor, the ages and children are not consistent with previous information and the data are not sufficient to make a choice. Longswamp Twp. Berks Co PA was also searched without useful results.

The Lehigh Church records show multiple David Vogele baptisms, in 1779, 1790, 1804, & 1808.
The Longswamp Church records show baptismal sponsors who may to be of the same generations as Peter Vogele and Elisabeth Marz: Christian, Heinrich, Philip, Abraham, Conrad , Mariga (with Christian Ritz, married in 1805), Magdalena.
One John Nicholas Voegels was born 1784 to Joh. Bernard & Elizabeth Voegels, p. 15, baptisms of Upper Milford Reformed Congregation, now Zion's Reformed Church at Zionsville

[edit] Conjecture

(Vogele adults who serve as sponsors for the children of Elizabetha Vogele & Johan Jacob Klein; possibly Elizabetha's siblings, or cousins)

Name	Gender	Spouse	Notes	Sources
Heinrich Vegli	M	Margaretha	sponsor 1795 of Gabriel Klein Elizabeth Mertz sponsors their child Elizabetha, 1810	^[1]
Philip Vegli	M	Elisabetha	sponsor 1799 of Philip Klein	^[1]
Margaretha Fogeli	F	(sponsor with Salmon Heynle)	sponsor 1803 of Lidia Klein This Margaretha may be the wife of Heinrich Vegli/Voegele	^[1]
Abraham Vogly	M	(sponsor with Catharine Desh)	sponsor 1805 of Catherine Klein	^[1]

(Unnamed wife of Johann Kieser served as sponsor for a child of Elizabetha Vogele & Johan Jacob Klein. Mrs. Kieser is possibly a sibling of either Elizabetha Vogele or Johan Jacob Klein.)

Name	Gender	Date of Birth	Birthplace	Spouse	Notes	Sources
"wife"	F			Johann Kieser	sponsor 1819 of Judith Klein	^[1]

[edit] Research

For Vogele source material not yet linked to this family, please see Vogele Research.

[edit] Research Wishlist

Wills & additional documentation to
1)clarify relationship of Elizabeth Vogele to Peter Vogele and Bernard Vogele;
2) determine parentage of Peter& Bernard Vogele;
3) determine surname of Barbara, wife of Bernard Vogele.
Locate burial site of Peter Vogele; Bernard Vogele.
Examine ships lists for Philadelphia for immigration evidence.

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-The ancestry of Peter Vogele is unknown.  The literature suggests a possibility that two Vogele families were in the Lehigh/Berks Counties border area of Pennsylvania.  A Fogel (von Vogel) family originally from Chur Hesse, Germany, emigrated in 1731 and settled in Lynn Township, Lehigh Co. Some moved to Upper Macungie Twp., and founded the town of Fogelsville. They were predominantly aligned with the Reformed church.  Several lines of descent are reported, but no Peter Vogele is found. He may descend from one of the untraced lines.
+{{page complete}}
-<br>Among the Lutheran families settled along the Little Lehigh, "who came principally from Wurtemberg" was a Wilhelm Fegley (Vogelein). No further documentation of this family has been found. Our Peter Vogele may be descended from this Wilhelm Fegley.  The possibility also exists that the list of early settlers principally from Wurtemberg contained the names of some who were not from Wurtemberg.  Wilhelm Fegley may in fact be connected to the Fogel family from Hesse.
+<br style="clear:both;"/>
+The parentage of  [[Elizabetha Vogele]] is not fully resolved. Her father appears to be either Peter or Heinrich Vogele, and her mother either Elizabeth Marz or Barbara unknown, possibly Barbara Marz.  [[Elizabetha Vogele]]'s death record at the Lehigh Church indicates 1st) that she was the wife of [[Johan Jacob Klein]]; 2nd) that her birth date was (calculated from age at death) 22 Mar 1775; 3rd) that her parents were Peter Vogele & Elisabeth Marz; and 4th) that Elizabeth Marz was deceased at the time of Elizabeth's death; this last notation implies that Peter Vogele was still alive.   (The Marz (Martz) surname is familiar, found among neighbors of the Klein descendants living in Clarion Co. PA two generations later.) <br> <br>The baptismal records of the Lutheran and Reformed churches, however, reveal a mystery.  Our Klein family of Macungie Twp., Lehigh Co. PA attended the Lehigh Church, also called the Zion's Lutheran Church.   The Reformed congregation was located neaby, across the Berks County line, in Longswamp Township, and was attended by the Vogele family.   In the Longswamp records, an [[Elizabetha Vogele]] was born 10 Mar 1775 to a Heinrich & Barbara Voegele, with Peter Vegly & Elisabeth Mertz as sponsors.   This date corresponds within 12 days of the calculated date from [[Elizabetha Vogele]] Klein's death record.  The only record found for baptism of an Elizabetha born to Peter Vogele & wife is dated 18 July 1784. <br><br> (For complete biographical notes, please go to [[Peter Vogele Biography]])
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 !  || Date || Location || Notes || Sources
 |-
-| '''Birth'''    ||   ||   || || <sup class="reference"></sup>
+| '''Birth'''    ||   ||   ||See Source Notes || <sup class="reference"></sup>
 |-
-| '''Marriage''' ||   ||possibly Longswamp Church || To   || <sup class="reference"></sup>
+| '''Marriage''' ||expect before 1775   ||possibly Longswamp Church or Lehigh church || To [[Elisabeth Marz]]   || <sup class="reference">[1]</sup>
 |-
-| '''Death'''    ||after 1810  ||   || || <sup class="reference"></sup>
+| '''Death'''    ||after 1810  ||   || || <sup class="reference">[1]</sup>
 |-
 | '''Burial''' || ||expect Longswamp Church (Reformed), Berks Co. PA   || || <sup class="reference"></sup>
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 = Ancestry chart segment =
-       ''Generation 7''          ''Generation 8''
+ ''Generation 7''            ''Generation 8''
+                     +-- [[Peter Vogele]]
+                     |   (????->1810)
-                      +-- ''Peter Vogele''
+ [[Elizabetha Vogele]] --+
-                      |   (????->1810)
+ (????-????)         |
-  [[Elizabetha Vogele]] --+
+                     +-- [[Elisabeth Marz]]
-  (????-????)         |
+                         (????-1810)
-                      +-- Elisabeth Marz
-                          (????-1810)
 Sources:
 <sup class="reference"></sup>
 =Children=
-(Children for whom baptismal records list parents Peter & Elisabeth Vogele.<br> More than one Peter & Elisabeth Vogele couple appear in Longswamp records, so children's parentage uncertain.)
+(Children for whom Longswamp baptismal records list parents Peter & Elisabetha Vogele.<br> (More than one Peter & Elisabeth Vogele couple appear in Longswamp records after 1799, so younger children's parentage uncertain.)
 {| class="wikitable"
 ! Name || Gender || Date of Birth || Birthplace || Spouse || Notes || Sources
 |-
-| Elisabeth Vogele || F ||22 Mar 1775  || || [[Johan Jacob Klein]]   || || <sup class="reference"></sup>
+| [[Elizabetha Vogele]] || F ||calc 22 Mar 1775 or 10 Mar 1775  || || [[Johan Jacob Klein]]   ||Direct Line || <sup class="reference">[1]</sup>
 |-
-| David Vogele ||M ||1779   ||   ||    ||   || <sup class="reference"></sup>
+| David Vogele ||M ||23 May 1779   ||   ||    ||bapt. sponsor was Elizabeth Mertz   || <sup class="reference">[2]</sup>
-|-
-|(Name illegible in record)  Vogele      || ? ||1780   || ||     || || <sup class="reference"></sup>
 |-
-| Anna Maria Vogele ||F ||30 Mar 1782   ||   ||   ||   || <sup class="reference"></sup>
+| Anna Maria Vogele ||F ||30 Mar 1782   ||   || expect Jacob Druckenmiller/Truckenmiller   ||bapt. sponsors were Philip & Eva Mertz   || <sup class="reference">[1][5]</sup>
 |-
-|Elisabetha Vogele||F||1784|| || ||<sup class="reference"></sup>
+|Elizabetha Vogele||F||1784|| ||possibly Berhard Finley ||were bapt. sponsors for Elizabeth Klein, dau. of [[Elizabetha Vogele]] & [[Johan Jacob Klein]]||<sup class="reference">[1]</sup>
 |-
-| Christian Vogele ||M ||1787  ||   ||   ||   || <sup class="reference"></sup>
+| Christian Vogele ||M ||1787  ||   ||   ||   || <sup class="reference">[2]</sup>
 |}
-(Vogele adults who serve as sponsors for the children of Elisabeth Vogele & Johan Jacob Klein; possibly her siblings, or cousins)
-{| class="wikitable"
-! Name || Gender || Date of Birth || Birthplace || Spouse || Notes || Sources
-|-
-| Heinrich Vegli || M ||  || ||Margaretha     ||sponsor 1795 of Gabriel Klein<br>Elizabeth Mertz sponsors their child Elizabetha, 1810 || <sup class="reference"></sup>
-|-
-| Philip Vegli ||M ||   ||   ||   || sponsor 1799 of Philip Klein  || <sup class="reference"></sup>
-|-
-|Margaretha Fogeli      ||  F||  || ||      ||sponsor 1803 of Lidia Klein || <sup class="reference"></sup>
-|-
-| Abraham  Vogly ||M ||   ||   ||   ||sponsor 1805 of Catherine Klein   || <sup class="reference"></sup>
-|}
 =Places of Residence=
 {| class="wikitable"
 ! Location || Dates || Notes || Sources
 |-
-|   ||   || ||
+|either Longswamp Twp., Berks Co. PA or Macungie Twp., Lehigh Co. PA   ||   || ||  <sup class="reference">[1][2]</sup>
-|-
-|   ||  ||   ||
-|-
-|   || ||   ||
 |}
 = Photo Gallery =
 <br style="clear: left"/>
 = Sources =
 {| class="wikitable"
 ! Ref. Num. !! Description !! Image of original
 |-
 !'''1'''
 |'''Records of Lehigh Church/Zion's Lutheran Church'''
-<br> Burial Service by Pastor Heinrich Heine: "Elisabeth Klein, nee Vogele, wife of Johann Jacob Klein, dau. of Peter Vogele and Elisabeth Marz, the later deceased. Date: February 23, 1810, Age: 34-11-1."
+* Burial Service by Pastor Heinrich Heine: "[[Elizabetha Vogele|Elisabeth Klein]], nee Vogele, wife of [[Johan Jacob Klein]], dau. of '''Peter Vogele''' and [[Elisabeth Marz]], the later deceased. Date: February 23, 1810, Age: 34-11-1."
-|[[Records of Lehigh Church/Zion's Lutheran Church|(See text)]]
+*Baptismal record for  [[Susanna Klein]]  born Apr. 27, 1798, baptized  June 24, 1798; parents '''[[Johan Jacob Klein|Jacob Klein]]''' & '''[[Elizabetha Vogele|Elisabetha]]'''; sponsors ''Jacob Druckemiller & Anna Maria''.
+* Baptismal record for Salome Klein  b. 6 May 1808, bapt. 24 July 1808,  parents [[Johan Nicholas Klein|Nicolaus Klein]] & Maria; sponsors ''Jacob Truckenmiller & Maria''.
+* Baptismal record for ''Anna Maria Voegele'' b. 30 Mar. 1782, to '''Peter Voegele''' & wf., sponsors ''Philip & Eva Mertz''.
+*    Elisabeth Klein born July 25, 1808, bapt. Sept. 4, 1808; parents '''[[Johan Jacob Klein|Jacob Klein]]''' & '''[[Elizabetha Vogele|Elisabeth]]'''; sponsors Berhard Finley & Elisabeth.
+|see [[Records of Lehigh Church/Zion's Lutheran Church]]
 |-
 !'''2'''
-|'''Longswamp Church Records''' FTM, Church Records: Selected Areas of PA, 1600s-1800s; Berks County, Vol 2, Longswamp.  <br>(Forwarded in correspondence of Richard C. Kelm, 2000).<br>Elisabeth Voegely daughter of Henrich and wife Barbara, b. March 10, 1775, bapt. April 16, 1775. Sponsors: Peter Voegely and Elisabetha Mertz.
+|'''Church Records of the Longswamp Reformed Church 1748-1810, Located at Longswamp Township, Berks County Pennsylvania''', March 1982,  by Warren J. Ziegler, Milford NJ 08848. Manuscript folder #78,  Longswamp Twp. section, Berks County Genealogical Society Library, Kutztown University, Kutztown PA. . "Baptisms herein were transcribed from (LDS-produced microfilm)  presented to the Evangelical & Reformed Historical Society.  The Marriage Records of Rev. John H. Hellfirch were found in a publication of the Genealogical Society of Pennsylvania."
+<br>
+MARRIAGE RECORD:
+* 1799 P. Vogele married Elisabeth ____.<br>(Note: This appears to be a Peter Vogele & Elisabeth, different from our Direct Line couple.)<br>
+BAPTISMAL RECORDS, children of '''Peter Voegele & wife Elisabetha''':<br>(Note: Beginning in 1799, there are 2 couples named Peter & Elisabeth Vogele)
+* David Vogele 23 May 1799  Peter Voegele & Elisabetha, sponsor Elisabeth Mertz <br>(Note: sponsor is the mother, or possibly the grandmother?)
+* David Vogele  7 Nov 1779 Peter Voegele & Elisabetha, sponsor Joh. Peter Diehl<br>(Note: this child apparently born to the couple married in 1799.)
+* (no name translated)  1780 Peter Voegele & Elisabetha, sponsors David & Elisabetha Burger
+* Anna Maria Voegele 1782, Peter Voegele & wf., sponsors Philip & Eva Mertz<br>(Note: Philip Mertz possibly a brother of the mother, Elisabeth Marz.)
+* Elisabetha Voegele 18 July 1784, Peter Voegele & wf., sponsors Henrich Muller & Sybilla Burkhardt
+* Christian Voegele  1787  Peter Voegele & Elisabetha, sponsors Christian & Susanna Maria Vogele
+* David Vogele  1804  Peter Voegele & Elisabetha, sponsors David & Susanna ____
+* Ruben Voegele 1806, Peter Boegele & Elisabetha; sponsors Philip Drescher & Catharina Ge___(single)
+<br>
+OTHER RECORDS for Peter Vogele & Elisabetha as baptismal sponsors:
+* 1790 baptismal sponsors for Georg Borger
+* 1808 baptismal sponsors for Sarah Lohrmann
+* 1779 baptismal sponsors for Joh. Peter Diehl
+* 1799 baptismal sponsors for '''Elisabeth Mertz'''
+'''Longswamp Church Records''' FTM, Church Records: Selected Areas of PA, 1600s-1800s; Berks County, Vol 2, Longswamp.  (Forwarded in correspondence of Richard C. Kelm, 2000).
+* Elisabeth Voegely daughter of Henrich and wife Barbara, b. March 10, 1775, bapt. April 16, 1775. Sponsors: Peter Voegely and Elisabetha Mertz.
+|See additional [[Longswamp Reformed Church Records]].
 |-
-! '''2'''
+! '''3'''
 | '''Personal correspondence''' from [[Elizabeth Ann Wilson|Elizabeth Wilson Williams]]
+|-
+!'''4'''
+|'''Fran Hazen Bean''', correspondence 1990-continuing, re. descendants of Reuben Kline; ancestors of John Klein & Anna Fenstermacher in Lehigh Co. PA & Germany.
+|-
+!'''5'''
+|'''Letters of Administration, Johannes Klein 1808'''.  On 15 Aug. 1808 [[Johan Jacob Klein|Jacob]] & [[Johan Nicholas Klein|Nicholas Kline]], yowmen of Macungie Twp., say  to  George Hine, Deputy Register, that they are the sons of [[Johannes Peter Klein|John Kline]], and that he died without a will. [[Johan Jacob Klein|Jacob]] & [[Johan Nicholas Klein|Nicholas ]] are named administrators; ''Jacob Truckenmiller'' of Upper Milford Twp., mill wright, and John Heinly of Macungie Twp., yowman, are also included in a bond for 600 Pounds to the Commonwealth for the administration of the estate. All four signed the document.  The inventory, written in German & presented on 19 Aug. 1808, is signed by John Heinly and Jacob Truckenmiller. A short document in German naming [[Catherine Unknown|Catharina Klein]] (wife of) [[Johannes Peter Klein|Johannes Klein]], signed on 20 Aug. 1808 by  [[Catherine Unknown|Catharina Klein]]. See transcription, and originals.
+| [[Letters of Administration, Johannes Klein 1808, Original Documents|(Scans of Documents)]]
 |}
 ===Source notes===
-* There are records for multiple David Vogele baptisms, in 1779, 1790, 1804, & 1808.
+* The records of Longswamp Reformed Church list an Elisabetha Voegele born 10 Mar 1775 to parents Heinrich & Barbara Voegele, with Peter Vegly & Elisabeth Mertz as sponsors.  This birth date corresponds within 12 days to the birth date calculated from the death record for "Elizabeth Klein nee Vogele, wife of Johan Jacob Klein,  the daughter of Peter Vogele & Elizabeth Marz".  It has to be wondered whether her parents were Heinrich & Barbara, who then died  leaving her to be raised/adopted by her sponsors, Peter Vogele & Elizabeth Marz. <br> From the recording of their names as Peter Vegly & Elisabeth Mertz, (as the baptismal sponsors in 1775), one might conclude that they were not yet married at that time; however, the death record for Elisabetha Vogele also records her mother's name as Elizabeth Marz, rather than her married name, Vogele.  <br> Peter Vogele & wife do have a daughter Elisabetha in the baptismal records at Longswamp, but she was baptized 18 July 1784, so must be a different child from Elisabetha of the death record, wife of Johan Jacob Klein.  <br>  The Longswamp records list 5 children for Heinrich & Barbara Voegele.  Ten children are listed for Peter & Elisabetha Voegele, but this appears to include the children of two couples.  There is a marraige record for a P. Vogele & Elisabeth in 1799, and in that same year 2 David Vogele's were born, one on 23 May and one on 7 November. Both have parents listed as Peter & Elisabetha. For more complete listings see [[Longswamp Reformed Church Records]]<br><br>
+* That Anna Maria, wife of Jacob Truckenmiller/Druckenmiller, could be a sister of [[Elizabetha Vogele]] is supported by these items:<br>* Anna Maria Voegele b. 30 Mar. 1782, to Peter Voegele & wf., sponsors ''Philip & Eva Mertz''.<br>* Salome Klein born May 6, 1808, bapt.July 24, 1808; [[Johan Nicholas Klein|Nicolaus Klein]] & Maria, parents; Jacob Truckenmiller & Maria, sponsors. <br> * Susanna Klein b. Apr. 27, 1798, bapt. June 24, 1798, '''[[Johan Jacob Klein|Jacob Klein]]''' & '''[[Elizabetha Vogele|Elisabetha]]''', parents; Jacob Druckemiller & Anna Maria, sponsors. <br> Anna Maria could also be a sister of [[Johan Jacob Klein]] and [[Johan Nicholas Klein| Nicolaus Klein]]; however no birth record of an Anna Maria Klein being born to [[Johannes Peter Klein]] has been found.
+* Line by line search of the 1790, 1800 and 1810 census records for Macungie Twp, Northampton Co, PA yielded no clear results for ''Peter Vogele'' under any name variant. An Ancestry.com search of the entire county for first name Peter gave no clear choice.  Although there are Peter Fegele (1800), Peter Fogel (1810) and others who could be our ancestor, the ages and children are not consistent with previous information and the data are not sufficient to make a choice. Longswamp Twp. Berks Co PA was also searched without useful results.
+* The Lehigh Church records show multiple David Vogele baptisms, in 1779, 1790, 1804, & 1808.<br>
+* The Longswamp Church records show baptismal sponsors who may to be of the same generations as Peter Vogele and Elisabeth Marz: Christian, Heinrich, Philip, Abraham, Conrad , Mariga (with Christian Ritz, married in 1805), Magdalena.
+* One John Nicholas Voegels was born 1784 to Joh. Bernard & Elizabeth Voegels, p. 15, baptisms of [[Upper Milford Reformed Congregation, now Zion's Reformed Church at Zionsville]]
 =Conjecture=
-* Journal of the Berks County Genealogical Society, Summer 1989, pg. 63 "Berks Surnames Matched to German Hometowns", associates the name Voegele with Hoffenheim in Wurtemberg. Their source is Annette Burgert's "Eighteenth Century Emigrants, Vol. I: Northern Kraichgau, Palatinate".
+(Vogele adults who serve as sponsors for the children of [[Elizabetha Vogele]] & [[Johan Jacob Klein]]; possibly Elizabetha's  siblings, or cousins)
+{| class="wikitable"
+! Name || Gender || Date of Birth || Birthplace || Spouse || Notes || Sources
+|-
+| Heinrich Vegli || M ||  || ||Margaretha     ||sponsor 1795 of Gabriel Klein<br>Elizabeth Mertz sponsors their child Elizabetha, 1810 || <sup class="reference">[1]</sup>
+|-
+| Philip Vegli ||M ||   ||   ||Elisabetha   || sponsor 1799 of Philip Klein  || <sup class="reference">[1]</sup>
+|-
+|Margaretha Fogeli      ||  F||  || ||(sponsor with Salmon Heynle)      ||sponsor 1803 of Lidia Klein<br>This Margaretha may be the wife of Heinrich Vegli/Voegele || <sup class="reference">[1]</sup>
+|-
+| Abraham  Vogly ||M ||   ||   ||(sponsor with Catharine Desh)   ||sponsor 1805 of Catherine Klein   || <sup class="reference">[1]</sup>
+|}
+(Unnamed wife of Johann Kieser served as sponsor for a child of [[Elizabetha Vogele]] & [[Johan Jacob Klein]].  Mrs. Kieser is possibly a sibling of either Elizabetha Vogele or Johan Jacob Klein.)
+{| class="wikitable"
+! Name || Gender || Date of Birth || Birthplace || Spouse || Notes || Sources
+|-
+| "wife" ||F ||   ||   ||Johann Kieser   ||sponsor 1819 of Judith Klein   || <sup class="reference">[1]</sup>
+|}
+<br>
+=Research=
+For Vogele source material not yet linked to this family, please see [[Vogele Research]].
-* Baptismal sponsors from the Longswamp Church records who appear to be of the same generations as Peter Vogele and Elisabeth Marz are: christian, Heinrich, Philip, Abraham, Conrad , Mariga (with Christian Ritz, married in 1805), Magdalena.
 =Research Wishlist=
+* Wills & additional documentation to<br> 1)clarify relationship of Elizabeth Vogele to Peter Vogele and Bernard Vogele; <br>2) determine parentage of Peter& Bernard Vogele; <br>3) determine surname of Barbara, wife of Bernard Vogele.
+* Locate burial site of Peter Vogele; Bernard Vogele.
+* Examine ships lists for Philadelphia for immigration evidence.

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