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| '''Birth'''    ||March 5, 1772; bap. April 9, 1772  || Lower Macungie Twp. Lehigh Co. PA  || || <sup class="reference"></sup>
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| '''Birth'''    ||5 March 1772; bap. April 9, 1772  || Lower Macungie Twp. Lehigh Co. PA  || || <sup class="reference"></sup>
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| '''Baptism'''    ||9Apr 1772  || Zion's Lutheran Church/(Lehigh Church) ||sponsors: Johan Nicolaus Klein & Catherine B. Keiser. || <sup class="reference"></sup>
 
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| '''Marriage''' ||  ||expect Lehigh Co PA  || To Maria Unknown  || <sup class="reference"></sup>
 
| '''Marriage''' ||  ||expect Lehigh Co PA  || To Maria Unknown  || <sup class="reference"></sup>
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|David Kleyn  || M ||June 23,1802; bap. July 18, 1802 ||Lower Macungie T. Lehigh Co PA ||  ||sponsors: Daniel Klock & Eva Feynbay(?)|| <sup class="reference"></sup>
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|David Kleyn  || M ||June 23,1802; bap. July 18, 1802 ||Lower Macungie T. Lehigh Co PA ||  ||sponsors: Daniel Klock & Eva Feynbay(?)|| <sup class="reference">[2]</sup>
 
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|  Peter Kleyn    || M || May 25, 1804; bap. July 15, 1804||Lower Macungie T. Lehigh Co PA  ||  || sponsors: Daniel Schankweiler & Catharina|| <sup class="reference"></sup>
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|  Peter Kleyn    || M || May 25, 1804; bap. July 15, 1804||Lower Macungie T. Lehigh Co PA  ||  || sponsors: Daniel Schankweiler & Catharina|| <sup class="reference">[2]</sup>
 
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| Elisabeth Kleyn ||F ||May 13, 1806; bap.July 13, 1806 ||Lower Macungie T. Lehigh Co PA  ||    ||sponsors: Johannes Wetzel & Elisabeth Muller, both single. || <sup class="reference"></sup>
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| Elisabeth Kleyn ||F ||May 13, 1806; bap.July 13, 1806 ||Lower Macungie T. Lehigh Co PA  ||    ||sponsors: Johannes Wetzel & Elisabeth Muller, both single. || <sup class="reference">[2]</sup>
 
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| Salome Klein  || F ||May 6, 1808; bap. July 24, 1808 ||Lower Macungie T. Lehigh Co PA    ||  || sponsors: Jacob Truckenmiller & Maria.  || <sup class="reference"></sup>
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| Salome Klein  || F ||May 6, 1808; bap. July 24, 1808 ||Lower Macungie T. Lehigh Co PA    ||  || sponsors: Jacob Truckenmiller & Maria.  || <sup class="reference">[2]</sup>
  
  
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|'''Records of Lehigh Church/Zion's Lutheran Church'''
 
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*Baptisms of children of Nicolaus Klein and Maria:  David, Peter, Elisabeth, & Salome Kleyn, with birth dates,  baptismal dates, sponsors.
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<br>Children of Nicolaus Kleyn/Klein & Maria:
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* Peter Kleyn  b. 25 May 1804; bapt. 15 July 15 1804; parents '''Nicolaus Kleyn & Maria'''; sponsors Daniel Schankweiler & Catharina
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*  Elisabeth Kleyn b. 13 May 13 1806; bapt. 13 July 13 1806; parents '''Nicolaus Kleyn & Maria'''; sponosors Johannes Wetzel & Elisabeth Muller, both single.
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* Salome Klein b. 6 May 1808; bapt. 24 July 1808; parents '''Nicolaus Klein & Maria'''; sponsors Jacob Truckenmiller & Maria.
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* David Kleyn  b. 23 June 1802; bapt. 18 July 1802; parents '''Nicolaus Kleyn & Maria'''; sponsors Daniel Klock & Eva Feynbay(?)
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|See [[Records of Lehigh Church/Zion's Lutheran Church]]  
 
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|'''Church Records of Longswamp Reformed Church 1748-1810''', Folder #78, Longswamp Twp. collection, Berks Co. Genealogical Society Library, Kutztown, PA. , photocopy Feb. 1995 By E W Williams.<br>"Elisabetha Klein, dau. of Nicolaus & Elisabetha, born 14 Apr. 1775, bapt. 5 Jun., sponsors Johann Jacob Muller & ''Magdalena Klein'' (single)".<br>"Catharina Klein, dau. of Joh. Nicolaus & Magdalena Klein, born 17 Jan. 1800, baptized 24 Aug., sponsors''Johannes & Catharina Klein''".  <br>Ed.  If Nicholas Klein of these Longswamp Church baptisms is the son of Johannes & Catharina Klein, he appears to have married  Elisabetha first, then Magdalena Klein (a cousin?), with Maria Unknown of The Lehigh Church baptisms being then a thrid wife. The Reformed Church in Longswamp, Berks Co. was about 5 miles from the (Lutheran) Lehigh Church where Johannes & Catharina Klein were members.   
 
|'''Church Records of Longswamp Reformed Church 1748-1810''', Folder #78, Longswamp Twp. collection, Berks Co. Genealogical Society Library, Kutztown, PA. , photocopy Feb. 1995 By E W Williams.<br>"Elisabetha Klein, dau. of Nicolaus & Elisabetha, born 14 Apr. 1775, bapt. 5 Jun., sponsors Johann Jacob Muller & ''Magdalena Klein'' (single)".<br>"Catharina Klein, dau. of Joh. Nicolaus & Magdalena Klein, born 17 Jan. 1800, baptized 24 Aug., sponsors''Johannes & Catharina Klein''".  <br>Ed.  If Nicholas Klein of these Longswamp Church baptisms is the son of Johannes & Catharina Klein, he appears to have married  Elisabetha first, then Magdalena Klein (a cousin?), with Maria Unknown of The Lehigh Church baptisms being then a thrid wife. The Reformed Church in Longswamp, Berks Co. was about 5 miles from the (Lutheran) Lehigh Church where Johannes & Catharina Klein were members.   
 
<br> "Nicholas Klein with Sarah Littweiler (single) sponsor Daniel Littweiler on 7 Jun 1778."<br>Ed. this event may have fallen between the first two marriages listed above.  It is unclear whether the "single" notation applies to both Nicholas and Sarah.    As Nicholas Klein, son of Johannes & Catherine, is of the 3rd generation of Kleins to live in the Lehigh/Berks border area, there may well be more than one Nicholas Klein in the church records.
 
<br> "Nicholas Klein with Sarah Littweiler (single) sponsor Daniel Littweiler on 7 Jun 1778."<br>Ed. this event may have fallen between the first two marriages listed above.  It is unclear whether the "single" notation applies to both Nicholas and Sarah.    As Nicholas Klein, son of Johannes & Catherine, is of the 3rd generation of Kleins to live in the Lehigh/Berks border area, there may well be more than one Nicholas Klein in the church records.
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|See [[Longswamp Reformed Church Records]] for Klein & other surnames.
 
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|''' ''The History of the Counties of Lehigh and Carbon'' ''', PA by Alfred Mathews, p. 331-32 biography of Phillip Lauer.
 
|''' ''The History of the Counties of Lehigh and Carbon'' ''', PA by Alfred Mathews, p. 331-32 biography of Phillip Lauer.
  
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<br>"[[Phillip Lauer]] settled upon a tract of forty-seven acres of land which he bought April 10 A.D. 1810, from '''Nicholas Klein'''. This was a part of a farm of one hundred eighty acres which was surveyed and warranted to Casper Blylor, on the 29th day of April, 1746.  It lies one mile east of the village of Alburtis, and is now occupied by his grandson, Jonas Lauer.  May 28, 1827, Phillip obtained a patent thereof from the commonwealth upon giving an indenture of mortgage thereon for the sum of $141.29.
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<br>"[[Phillip Lauer]] settled upon a tract of forty-seven acres of land which he bought April 10 A.D. 1810, from '''Nicholas Klein'''. This was a part of a farm of one hundred eighty acres which was surveyed and warranted to Casper Blylor, on the 29th day of April, 1746.  It lies ''one mile east of the village of Alburtis'', and is now occupied by his grandson, Jonas Lauer.  May 28, 1827, Phillip obtained a patent thereof from the commonwealth upon giving an indenture of mortgage thereon for the sum of $141.29.
  
 
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===Source notes===
 
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*We expect that Nicholas Klein was named for an uncle Nicholas Klein.  There is a Nicholas Klein and Margaretha, whose  four children were born between 1776 and 1781, as recorded in [[Records of Lehigh Church/Zion's Lutheran Church]].  This older Nicholas is probably a brother of [[Johannes Peter Klein]], but we have no record of him as such. <br>* '''Johann Nicolaus Klein''' b. 5 March 1772; bapt 9 Apr 1772; parents [[Johannes Klein]] & [[Catherine Unknown|Catharina]]; sponsors; ''Johan Nicolaus Klein'' & Catherine B. Keiser.
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* ''Nicolaus Klein & Margaretha'';Elisabetha Klein Apr. 22, 1776. May 19, 1776; Andreas Eisenhard & wife.
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* ''Nicolaus Klein & Margaretha''; Maria M. Klein Apr. 7, 1778.  May 3, 1778; Michael Schmoyer & Magdalena.
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* ''Nicolaus Klein & Margaretha''; J. Salomon Klein Nov. 29, 1779.  Dec. 12, 1779; Johannes Koller & Gertraut Kinli.
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* ''Johann N. Klein & Margaretha''; Salome Klein  Apr. 10, 1781.  May 13, 1781;  Johannes Heller & Catharina Schmoyer.
 
=Research Wishlist=
 
=Research Wishlist=
 
Longswamp church records for a possible marraige record, Joh. Nicholas Klein & Magdalena Unknown; a death record of Magdalena Klein, or additional baptismal records for children of Nicholas & Magdalena. Needed to establish whether Magdalena was a first wife to Nicholas, son of Johannes & Catharina Klein, or if Nicholas, husband of Magdalena, is another person.
 
Longswamp church records for a possible marraige record, Joh. Nicholas Klein & Magdalena Unknown; a death record of Magdalena Klein, or additional baptismal records for children of Nicholas & Magdalena. Needed to establish whether Magdalena was a first wife to Nicholas, son of Johannes & Catharina Klein, or if Nicholas, husband of Magdalena, is another person.

Revision as of 10:26, 17 November 2007

NOT A DIRECT ANCESTOR

Johan Nicholas Klein is not in my direct ancestry. He is 1 step removed in the following ways:


Date Location Notes Sources
Birth 5 March 1772; bap. April 9, 1772 Lower Macungie Twp. Lehigh Co. PA
Baptism 9Apr 1772 Zion's Lutheran Church/(Lehigh Church) sponsors: Johan Nicolaus Klein & Catherine B. Keiser.
Marriage expect Lehigh Co PA To Maria Unknown
Death
Burial

Ancestry chart segment 

   Generation 7           Generation 8          Generation 9
 
                                                     +-- Johannes Klein
                                                     |   (????->1744)
                        +-- Johannes Peter Klein ----+
                        |   (1741-1808)              |
 Johan Nicholas Klein --+                            +--Anna Margaretha Unknown
 (1766-????)            |                                (????-????)
                        +-- Catherine Unknown
                            (????->1818)

Sources:

Children

(Children with Maria Unknown)

Name Gender Date of Birth Birthplace Spouse Notes Sources
David Kleyn M June 23,1802; bap. July 18, 1802 Lower Macungie T. Lehigh Co PA sponsors: Daniel Klock & Eva Feynbay(?) [2]
Peter Kleyn M May 25, 1804; bap. July 15, 1804 Lower Macungie T. Lehigh Co PA sponsors: Daniel Schankweiler & Catharina [2]
Elisabeth Kleyn F May 13, 1806; bap.July 13, 1806 Lower Macungie T. Lehigh Co PA sponsors: Johannes Wetzel & Elisabeth Muller, both single. [2]
Salome Klein F May 6, 1808; bap. July 24, 1808 Lower Macungie T. Lehigh Co PA sponsors: Jacob Truckenmiller & Maria. [2]


Places of Residence

Location Dates Notes Sources
Lower Macungie T. Lehigh Co PA 1772 birth - > 1808 4th child


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Sources

Ref. Num. Description Image of original
1 1800 United States Federal Census, Maccongie Twp, Northampton Co, PA, Page 3. The census is undated. Lists families of:
Nicholas Klein: 1 male 16-25, 1 male 26-44, 1 female <10, 1 female 26-45. The younger male and female do not fit for the children, all born after 1800)

John Klein: 1 male and 1 female >45. This fits for Johannes Peter Klein and his wife.
Jacob Klein: 4 males <10, 1 male 16-25, 1 male 26-44, 1 female <10, 1 female 26-44. This fits the list of children for Johan Jacob Klein. There is an extra male 16-25, and the age for Elizabetha Vogele is off by a year.
Henry Klein: 1 male 16-26, 2 females <10, 1 female 16-26. No known relation fits these data.
These listing account for all the sons of Johannes Peter Klein except for the youngest, Johannes Klein, who should have been 26 in 1800. He could be one of the males living with his brothers.

1800 census pa northampton maccongie pg 3.jpg
2 Records of Lehigh Church/Zion's Lutheran Church


Children of Nicolaus Kleyn/Klein & Maria:

  • Peter Kleyn b. 25 May 1804; bapt. 15 July 15 1804; parents Nicolaus Kleyn & Maria; sponsors Daniel Schankweiler & Catharina
  • Elisabeth Kleyn b. 13 May 13 1806; bapt. 13 July 13 1806; parents Nicolaus Kleyn & Maria; sponosors Johannes Wetzel & Elisabeth Muller, both single.
  • Salome Klein b. 6 May 1808; bapt. 24 July 1808; parents Nicolaus Klein & Maria; sponsors Jacob Truckenmiller & Maria.
  • David Kleyn b. 23 June 1802; bapt. 18 July 1802; parents Nicolaus Kleyn & Maria; sponsors Daniel Klock & Eva Feynbay(?)
See Records of Lehigh Church/Zion's Lutheran Church
3 Church Records of Longswamp Reformed Church 1748-1810, Folder #78, Longswamp Twp. collection, Berks Co. Genealogical Society Library, Kutztown, PA. , photocopy Feb. 1995 By E W Williams.
"Elisabetha Klein, dau. of Nicolaus & Elisabetha, born 14 Apr. 1775, bapt. 5 Jun., sponsors Johann Jacob Muller & Magdalena Klein (single)".
"Catharina Klein, dau. of Joh. Nicolaus & Magdalena Klein, born 17 Jan. 1800, baptized 24 Aug., sponsorsJohannes & Catharina Klein".
Ed. If Nicholas Klein of these Longswamp Church baptisms is the son of Johannes & Catharina Klein, he appears to have married Elisabetha first, then Magdalena Klein (a cousin?), with Maria Unknown of The Lehigh Church baptisms being then a thrid wife. The Reformed Church in Longswamp, Berks Co. was about 5 miles from the (Lutheran) Lehigh Church where Johannes & Catharina Klein were members.


"Nicholas Klein with Sarah Littweiler (single) sponsor Daniel Littweiler on 7 Jun 1778."
Ed. this event may have fallen between the first two marriages listed above. It is unclear whether the "single" notation applies to both Nicholas and Sarah. As Nicholas Klein, son of Johannes & Catherine, is of the 3rd generation of Kleins to live in the Lehigh/Berks border area, there may well be more than one Nicholas Klein in the church records.

See Longswamp Reformed Church Records for Klein & other surnames.
4 The History of the Counties of Lehigh and Carbon , PA by Alfred Mathews, p. 331-32 biography of Phillip Lauer.


"Phillip Lauer settled upon a tract of forty-seven acres of land which he bought April 10 A.D. 1810, from Nicholas Klein. This was a part of a farm of one hundred eighty acres which was surveyed and warranted to Casper Blylor, on the 29th day of April, 1746. It lies one mile east of the village of Alburtis, and is now occupied by his grandson, Jonas Lauer. May 28, 1827, Phillip obtained a patent thereof from the commonwealth upon giving an indenture of mortgage thereon for the sum of $141.29.


Source notes

Conjecture

  • We expect that Nicholas Klein was named for an uncle Nicholas Klein. There is a Nicholas Klein and Margaretha, whose four children were born between 1776 and 1781, as recorded in Records of Lehigh Church/Zion's Lutheran Church. This older Nicholas is probably a brother of Johannes Peter Klein, but we have no record of him as such.
    * Johann Nicolaus Klein b. 5 March 1772; bapt 9 Apr 1772; parents Johannes Klein & Catharina; sponsors; Johan Nicolaus Klein & Catherine B. Keiser.


  • Nicolaus Klein & Margaretha;Elisabetha Klein Apr. 22, 1776. May 19, 1776; Andreas Eisenhard & wife.
  • Nicolaus Klein & Margaretha; Maria M. Klein Apr. 7, 1778. May 3, 1778; Michael Schmoyer & Magdalena.
  • Nicolaus Klein & Margaretha; J. Salomon Klein Nov. 29, 1779. Dec. 12, 1779; Johannes Koller & Gertraut Kinli.
  • Johann N. Klein & Margaretha; Salome Klein Apr. 10, 1781. May 13, 1781; Johannes Heller & Catharina Schmoyer.

Research Wishlist

Longswamp church records for a possible marraige record, Joh. Nicholas Klein & Magdalena Unknown; a death record of Magdalena Klein, or additional baptismal records for children of Nicholas & Magdalena. Needed to establish whether Magdalena was a first wife to Nicholas, son of Johannes & Catharina Klein, or if Nicholas, husband of Magdalena, is another person.

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