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|Catharine Ann Wimer || F || 8 Sept. 1844 || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||2nd wife of Isaac Fisher (1837-1913), widower of sister Hannah Wimer;<br>11 Fisher children.<sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>|| || <sup class="reference">[1][2][6][10][W1]</sup>
 
|Catharine Ann Wimer || F || 8 Sept. 1844 || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||2nd wife of Isaac Fisher (1837-1913), widower of sister Hannah Wimer;<br>11 Fisher children.<sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>|| || <sup class="reference">[1][2][6][10][W1]</sup>
 
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|Jefferson Wimer || M || 25 Aug. 1846<br>d. before 1880 || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||Susannah Stickle ;<br>6 Wimer children.<sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>||died 1 Aug 1832|| <sup class="reference">[1][2][3][4][6][10][W1]</sup>
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|Jefferson Wimer || M || 25 Aug. 1846 || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||Susannah Stickle ;<br>6 Wimer children.<sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>||died 1 Aug 1832|| <sup class="reference">[1][2][3][4][6][10][W1]</sup>
 
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|Jonathan H. Wimer || M || 27 May 1853 || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||Margaret R. Wigton (1857-1926):<br> 1 Wimer child.<sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>|| || <sup class="reference">[2][3][4][6][10][W1]</sup>
 
|Jonathan H. Wimer || M || 27 May 1853 || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||Margaret R. Wigton (1857-1926):<br> 1 Wimer child.<sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>|| || <sup class="reference">[2][3][4][6][10][W1]</sup>
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* Earlier census are available, but shed no particular light on the family.
 
* Earlier census are available, but shed no particular light on the family.
 
* This branch of the Wimer family connects to the Wilson family, 4 generations later.  Peter Wimer (31 May 1841-30 Dec 1919) married (29 Sept 1859) to Eleanor Fisher (19 Jan 1843 - 24 May 1918); their son Ford Wimer (4 Dec 1885 - 7 Aug 1971) married A. Gertrude Leise (9 Nov 1892 - 4 June 1966); their son Charles W. Wimer (b. 18 May 1910) married [[Bernice Evelyn Wilson]], daughter of [[James Garfield Wilson]] and [[Lorena Bernice Mayer]]. <br>from p. 34 & 47 of ''The Wimer Family'' by Paul W. Myers.
 
* This branch of the Wimer family connects to the Wilson family, 4 generations later.  Peter Wimer (31 May 1841-30 Dec 1919) married (29 Sept 1859) to Eleanor Fisher (19 Jan 1843 - 24 May 1918); their son Ford Wimer (4 Dec 1885 - 7 Aug 1971) married A. Gertrude Leise (9 Nov 1892 - 4 June 1966); their son Charles W. Wimer (b. 18 May 1910) married [[Bernice Evelyn Wilson]], daughter of [[James Garfield Wilson]] and [[Lorena Bernice Mayer]]. <br>from p. 34 & 47 of ''The Wimer Family'' by Paul W. Myers.
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* This branch of the Wimer family also connects to the Stoughton family. Peter Wimer & Eleanor Fisher; their son William Wimer (b. 29 May 1863,d. 23 June 1940) married [[Sidney Jane Stoughton|Sidney Jane "Jennie" Stoughton]], a daughter of [[John C. Stoughton]]. William & Sidney Jane  had 3 children: Lowry A. Wimer (b. 12 June 1885), Lester Wimer, and Harrison Wimer.  Sidney Jane Stoughton (Wimer) married 2nd to Thomas James Conroy.  See. pg. 38, "The Wimer Family" by Paul W. Myers.
  
 
=Conjecture=
 
=Conjecture=
 
* Daniel Wimer, discussed by Norman C. Miller Jr., does not appear in the various census as living with the Jonathan Wimer family. <br>  However, living two houses away from Jonathan's family in 1850 is a  Mary Wimer, age 65, apparently a widow, with children Thomas 30, Adam 25, Margaret 20, Mary 15, and Daniel 14.  It is possible that all the children are hers (she would be 51 when Daniel was born), but also possible that some of the younger children (Margaret, Mary, Daniel) are staying with her, children of Jonathan and Ann Wimer.  There isn't a Mary in the list of Jon & Ann's children, but their daughter Sophia was obviously named for her grandmother, Mary Sophia Snyder, and could have had the name Mary .  Margaret was born in 1831, Sophia in 1833, and Daniel 1836 or earlier.  The children living with Mary Wimer in 1850 are a decent match, age-wise.  It is possible Jonathan sent his 3 oldest children to help out with Mary Wimer's farm after her husband died. (Note: Margaret and Sophia are present in Jonathan's house in the 1850 census, but Daniel is not.) The question is, who is Mary Wimer?  Probably the wife of a cousin of Jonathan Wimer's, or even an aunt, the wife of a brother of Christopher Wimer.  Two houses on past Mary Wimer lived John Wimer, brother of Jonathan Wimer.  So, whoever Mary Wimer is, she seems intimately related to John and Jon Wimer, and it is easily possible that the 14 year old Daniel at her house could be the missing son of Jonathan.
 
* Daniel Wimer, discussed by Norman C. Miller Jr., does not appear in the various census as living with the Jonathan Wimer family. <br>  However, living two houses away from Jonathan's family in 1850 is a  Mary Wimer, age 65, apparently a widow, with children Thomas 30, Adam 25, Margaret 20, Mary 15, and Daniel 14.  It is possible that all the children are hers (she would be 51 when Daniel was born), but also possible that some of the younger children (Margaret, Mary, Daniel) are staying with her, children of Jonathan and Ann Wimer.  There isn't a Mary in the list of Jon & Ann's children, but their daughter Sophia was obviously named for her grandmother, Mary Sophia Snyder, and could have had the name Mary .  Margaret was born in 1831, Sophia in 1833, and Daniel 1836 or earlier.  The children living with Mary Wimer in 1850 are a decent match, age-wise.  It is possible Jonathan sent his 3 oldest children to help out with Mary Wimer's farm after her husband died. (Note: Margaret and Sophia are present in Jonathan's house in the 1850 census, but Daniel is not.) The question is, who is Mary Wimer?  Probably the wife of a cousin of Jonathan Wimer's, or even an aunt, the wife of a brother of Christopher Wimer.  Two houses on past Mary Wimer lived John Wimer, brother of Jonathan Wimer.  So, whoever Mary Wimer is, she seems intimately related to John and Jon Wimer, and it is easily possible that the 14 year old Daniel at her house could be the missing son of Jonathan.

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[edit] NOT A DIRECT ANCESTOR

Jonathan Wimeris not in my direct ancestry. He is 1 step removed in the following ways:


Date Location Notes Sources
Birth 31 Oct. 1802 Butler Co. PA [5]
Marriage 6 May 1830 To Ann Hockenberry [5]
Death 28 Feb. 1881 [5]
Burial 1881 Zion Baptist Cemetery, Worth Twp. Butler Co. PA [5]

[edit] Ancestry chart segment 

  Generation 6            Generation 7
 
                      +-- Christophel Wimer
                      |     (1770-1842)
Jonathan Wimer -------+ 
  (1802-1881)         |
                      +-- Mary Sophia Snyder   
                           (1769-1842)
                   
 Sources: [5]

[edit] Children

(all children with Ann Hockenberry)
Birth order of Daniel (oldest son) uncertain.

Name Gender Date of Birth Birthplace Spouse Notes Sources
Margaret Jane Wimer F 4 Aug. 1831 Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA married 13 Mar 1857[10]
to Henry Smyth (1822-1906);
9 Smyth children[W1] 		[1][6][10][W1]
Daniel N/M Wimer M 1832 or 1836 or 1838 Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA possibly Margaret unknown died 1904 [1][7][8][9]
Sophia Wimer F 3 Jan. 1833 Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA m. 21 Oct 1852
to James Harvey Cooper (1829-1910);
7 Cooper children.[W1] 		[1][6][W1]
Rebecca Wimer F 3 Sept. 1834 Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA m. 1855 to
James Jones (1830-1908);
9 Jones children.[W1] 		[1][6][10][W1]
Hannah Wimer F 13 Sept. 1836 Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA m. 1856 to Isaac Fisher (1837-1913);
3 Fisher children; Hannah died 1861 [W1]		 [1][6][10][W1]
John Wimer M 28 Feb. 1839 Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA died young died 24 July 1839 [5][10][W1]
Peter Wimer M 31 May 1840 Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA m.29 Sept 1859 to
Eleanor Fisher (1843-1918);
11 Wimer children.[W1]		 See source notes, below [1][2][6][10][W1]
Ellenor Wimer F 1841 Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA [W1]
William Wimer M 10 Sept. 1842 Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA Civil War Vet; died at home of war injuries, 4 Mar 1863 [1][2][10][W1]
Catharine Ann Wimer F 8 Sept. 1844 Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA 2nd wife of Isaac Fisher (1837-1913), widower of sister Hannah Wimer;
11 Fisher children.[W1]		 [1][2][6][10][W1]
Jefferson Wimer M 25 Aug. 1846 Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA Susannah Stickle ;
6 Wimer children.[W1]		 died 1 Aug 1832 [1][2][3][4][6][10][W1]
Jonathan H. Wimer M 27 May 1853 Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA Margaret R. Wigton (1857-1926):
1 Wimer child.[W1]		 [2][3][4][6][10][W1]

[edit] Places of Residence

Location Dates Notes Sources
Muddy Creek Twp., Butler Co. PA by 1850
Worth Twp., Butler Co. PA
created 1854, largely from Muddy Crk. Twp. 		1854-1881

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[edit] Sources

Ref. Num. Description Image of original
1 1850 United States Federal Census, Muddy Creek Twp, Butler Co, PA, page 16 and 17. Census dated 28 August 1850.
Lines 35-42 (pg 16) and lines 1-2 (pg 17): Jonathan Wimer, age 48, farmer, $2400 real property; Anne, 48; Margaret 18; Sophia, 17; Rebecca, 15; Hannah, 13; Peter, 10; William, 8; Catherine, 6; Jefferson, 4. All children in school except Jefferson. All born PA.
Also on page 17, two houses away,a household headed by Mary Wimer. Two houses further on, the family of John Wimer (Jonathan's brother).


Lines14-19: Mary Wimer, age 65, apparently a widow, with children Thomas 30, Adam 25, Margaret 20, Mary 15, and Daniel 14.
Lines 24-30: John Wimer age 58; Nancy, age 45; Isaac F, age 22; Jonathan, age 16; Nancy R, age 13; John , age 9; and Sam'l, age 5.

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2 1860 United States Federal Census, Worth Twp, Butler Co, PA, page 2. Census dated 2 July 1860.
Lines 1-9: Jonathan Wimer, age 51, farmer, $5000 real, 2345 personal property; Ann, 50; William, 17; Catherine, 15; Jefferson, 13; Jonathan, 7; Peter 20, mar. within year; Ellinor, 18, mar. within year. All children in school. All born PA.
On Lines 9-15 is a family headed by a John Wimer.
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3 1870 United States Federal Census, Worth Twp, Butler Co, PA, page 11. Census dated 22 June, 1870.
Lines 17-22: Jonnathan Wimer, 67, farmer, $8800 real, $2300 personal property; Ann, 60, keeping house, can not write; Jefferson, 23, farm labor; Susan, 25, keeping house; Jonnathan, 17, farm labor; Margaret Fisher, 10. All born PA.
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4 1880 United States Federal Census, District 58, Worth Twp, Butler Co, PA, page 12. Census dated 10 & 11 June 1880.
Lines 40-43: Jonathan Wimer, age 77, farmer; Ann, 69, wife, keeping house; Margaret R., 22, widow, dau-in-law, at home; Ellen Wiglere, 17, servant. All (and all parents) born PA.
Jefferson Wimer and family start on line 44.
1880 census pa butler worth dist 58 pg 12.jpg
5 The Wimer Family by Paul W. Myers, 1973, pp 32-34 gives biography of Jonathan Wimer, land transactions, wife's parents, location of Wimer & Hockenberry homesteads, children's names & birthdates, date of death of Jonathan & Ann, burial at Mt. Zion cemetery.
6 Will of Jonathan Wimeras transcribed by Paul W. Myers in The Wimer Family, p. 35. Lists "wife"; sons Jefferson & Peter; daughter-in-law Margaret, widow of my son Jonathan H."; daughters Margaret Jane, Sophia,Rebecca, Catharine Ann; three grandchildren (unnamed), children of daughter Hannah. Signed 8 June 1880.(Willbook source not listed; presume Butler County PA).

From correspondence of Norman C. Miller, Jr., 1988: "Jonathan's will does not name Daniel...he did identify a dau.-in-law Margaret Jane (widow of Jonathan H.) and a daughter-in-law Margaret worded to indicate a different one. This could only be Daniel's wife (or ex-wife). I know his parents held Daniel responsible for William's death[Civil War] - which could have been reason enough to have disinherited him."
Note: We have not seen a copy of the original script form of the will. Either Norman C. Miller or Paul J. Myers has miss-read it with regard to the two Margarets, daughter & daughter-in-law, as to which was Margaret Jane. We see no wording indicating a 2nd daughter-in-law in the transcription of Paul J. Myers.

(Complete transcription)
7 Correspondence of Norman C. Miller, Jr. with Elizabeth Wilson Williams, 1988. (See Contributors page.)
"Jonathan Wimer's first born son was Daniel, born circa 1836 (or 1832...or 1838) and middle initial was N (or M or W.) I know Myers (ie. Paul W. Myers in "The Wimer Family") does not list him as a son, but he was. My grandmother Miller said her Uncle Daniel was the black sheep of the family...she said he was one of her favorite uncles and she gave me a small pocket photo album that Daniel carried during the Civil War. Inside the fly leaf Daniel wrote his name as Daniel N. along with his unit - Battery B, 1st Pa. Artillery. Daniel enlisted in Bat'ry B. in Aug of 1864 serving until discharged in June '65."
Miller gives further military records of Daniel N Wimer, Daniel M Wimer/Wymer, (indicating birth years 1836, or 1838)and brother William Wimer; and a grave for Daniel W. Weimer (calculated birth year 1832)with marker for Co. G. 134th PA Vols. at Zion Baptist Cemetery in Worth Co., where Daniel's father Jonathan Wimer is also buried.
Note: Regarding the middle initial, see source #8, death notices. 		Click here for complete Miller correspondence re. Daniel Wimer
8 Death Notices of Daniel Wimer,
  • Butler Citizen, 24 Nov 1904, p.2, col.4.
    "DEATHS: WIMER - At Mercer, Nov. 16, 1904, Daniel M. Wimer of Butler, aged 72 years."
  • Butler Eagle, Thurs. 17 Nov 1904, p.8, col.3. "D.N.Weimer, a former Butler county resident, died last night in Mercer county and the remains were brought to Butler this morning, to 217 West D street, where the funeral services will be held tomorrow. the interment will be in the Worth township cemetery. He was 72 years of age and died from the ills peculiar to age.


Note: Daniel M. Wimer and Daniel N. Weimer are obviously the same person.

9 U.S. Civil War Soldiers, 1861-1865, records from Ancestry.com military records.
  • Daniel N. Wimer/Wymer,private, 1st Regiment PA Light Artillery, 14th Reserves. Film #M 554 roll 133.
  • Daniel M Wimer/Wymer, private 134th Regiment PA Infantry, Company G. Film #M 554, roll 133.
  • Daniel H. Wimer/Weimer, private 171st Pa Infantry, Company K. Film #M 554 roll 133.
10 The Wimer Family, by Paul W. Myers, self-published manuscript, undated(printed before 1985. Eight generations of the Wimer family charted, with biographical information on Christopher Wimer and his children, derived from interviews of descendants and extensive research of property deeds, military records, and wills. The children of Christophel Wimer & Mary Sophia Snyder include Jonathan Wimer (b. 31 Oct. 1802, Butler Co. PA - d. 28 Feb. 1881), m. 6 May, 1830 Ann Hockenberry (b. 20 June 1810 - ~1880), dau of Casper & Margaret Shaffer Hockenberry. Jon & Ann buried Zion Baptist Cemetery, Worth Twp. Ten children listed.
11 Personal correspondence from Elizabeth Wilson Williams]
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Ref. Num. Description Extract
W1 Dougherty Family Tree on Ancestry.com, see:
http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/person.aspx?pid=-1307693498&tid=6276881&ssrc=
This site lists, in addition to the children listed above for Jonathan Wimer & Ann Hockenberry, a daughter Ellenor Wimer b. 1841 (no death date). Son Daniel is not listed.
Additional generations of children are listed for 6 of the children of Jon & Ann H Wimer.

[edit] Source notes

  • Earlier census are available, but shed no particular light on the family.
  • This branch of the Wimer family connects to the Wilson family, 4 generations later. Peter Wimer (31 May 1841-30 Dec 1919) married (29 Sept 1859) to Eleanor Fisher (19 Jan 1843 - 24 May 1918); their son Ford Wimer (4 Dec 1885 - 7 Aug 1971) married A. Gertrude Leise (9 Nov 1892 - 4 June 1966); their son Charles W. Wimer (b. 18 May 1910) married Bernice Evelyn Wilson, daughter of James Garfield Wilson and Lorena Bernice Mayer.
    from p. 34 & 47 of The Wimer Family by Paul W. Myers.
  • This branch of the Wimer family also connects to the Stoughton family. Peter Wimer & Eleanor Fisher; their son William Wimer (b. 29 May 1863,d. 23 June 1940) married Sidney Jane "Jennie" Stoughton, a daughter of John C. Stoughton. William & Sidney Jane had 3 children: Lowry A. Wimer (b. 12 June 1885), Lester Wimer, and Harrison Wimer. Sidney Jane Stoughton (Wimer) married 2nd to Thomas James Conroy. See. pg. 38, "The Wimer Family" by Paul W. Myers.

[edit] Conjecture

  • Daniel Wimer, discussed by Norman C. Miller Jr., does not appear in the various census as living with the Jonathan Wimer family.
    However, living two houses away from Jonathan's family in 1850 is a Mary Wimer, age 65, apparently a widow, with children Thomas 30, Adam 25, Margaret 20, Mary 15, and Daniel 14. It is possible that all the children are hers (she would be 51 when Daniel was born), but also possible that some of the younger children (Margaret, Mary, Daniel) are staying with her, children of Jonathan and Ann Wimer. There isn't a Mary in the list of Jon & Ann's children, but their daughter Sophia was obviously named for her grandmother, Mary Sophia Snyder, and could have had the name Mary . Margaret was born in 1831, Sophia in 1833, and Daniel 1836 or earlier. The children living with Mary Wimer in 1850 are a decent match, age-wise. It is possible Jonathan sent his 3 oldest children to help out with Mary Wimer's farm after her husband died. (Note: Margaret and Sophia are present in Jonathan's house in the 1850 census, but Daniel is not.) The question is, who is Mary Wimer? Probably the wife of a cousin of Jonathan Wimer's, or even an aunt, the wife of a brother of Christopher Wimer. Two houses on past Mary Wimer lived John Wimer, brother of Jonathan Wimer. So, whoever Mary Wimer is, she seems intimately related to John and Jon Wimer, and it is easily possible that the 14 year old Daniel at her house could be the missing son of Jonathan.
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