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| '''Marriage''' || ~1727||Germany || To [[Susanna Margaretha Ranck]] || <sup class="reference">[1][6]</sup>
 
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b.abt.1707 in Kirchdorf, Argau, Switzerland(?) in the "Palatine" area on the Swiss/German border.
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* N.B. the Ship cleared from Cows in the Isle of Wight. "At the Courthouse of Philadelphia, September 15th, 1729...A List was presented of the names of Fifty nine Palatines, who with their Families, making in all about One hundred & twenty six Persons, were imported in the Ship Allen, James Craigie, Master, from Rotterdam, but last from Cows, as by Clearance thence dated 7th of July last." From the ''Minutes of the Provincial Council, printed in Colonial Records, Vol. III, pg. 368.''
 
* N.B. the Ship cleared from Cows in the Isle of Wight. "At the Courthouse of Philadelphia, September 15th, 1729...A List was presented of the names of Fifty nine Palatines, who with their Families, making in all about One hundred & twenty six Persons, were imported in the Ship Allen, James Craigie, Master, from Rotterdam, but last from Cows, as by Clearance thence dated 7th of July last." From the ''Minutes of the Provincial Council, printed in Colonial Records, Vol. III, pg. 368.''
 
* '''List B, Signers of the oath of allegiance to England''', dated 15 Sept 1729, included:  ''Christian Schneider, Mattdes Schneider''; (''Jacob Schneider'' does not appear on the list, but there is a name transcribed as Jacob Heider.  No Jacob Heider appears on List A.  It is possible that Jacob's script signature has been miss-transcribed from List B. )<br>See:  http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/7010/shiplists_pa1729.html#ALLEN
 
* '''List B, Signers of the oath of allegiance to England''', dated 15 Sept 1729, included:  ''Christian Schneider, Mattdes Schneider''; (''Jacob Schneider'' does not appear on the list, but there is a name transcribed as Jacob Heider.  No Jacob Heider appears on List A.  It is possible that Jacob's script signature has been miss-transcribed from List B. )<br>See:  http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/7010/shiplists_pa1729.html#ALLEN
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|''' Biographical Annals of Lancaster County Pennsylvania''', J. H. Beers & Co. 1903, pgs 109-111.<br>
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Matheis Schneider; Jacob Schneider & wife Magdalen; and Christian Schneider & wife Susanna Margretha; with fifty-six other Palatinates and their families, sailed from Cowes, Isle of Wight, on 7 July 1729, in the ship "Allen", James Craigie, master.  They landed at Philadelphia, and took the oath of allegiance to King George II of England, Sept. 15, 1729.<br>They originally came from northern Switzerland, near the boundary line of Baden and Wurtemberg, Germany.
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Some time prior to their coming to America went to Holland, thence to England, with a view of being transported to Pennsylvania.  They settled in Weber-Thal, Lancaster Co., PA., where their friends, George
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Weber, Henry Weber and Jacob Weber, Swiss Memonites, had settled a few years earlier...
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|[[Biographical Annals of Lancaster County PA, Schneider Biography|See full text]]
 
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* Several of our sources seem to go back to the work of J. Allan Skiles.   
 
* Several of our sources seem to go back to the work of J. Allan Skiles.   
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* The references to Switzerland  as place of origin may go back to the writing of Charles D. Spotts on the history of Bowmansville (Ref. 11).  Switzerland appears to be a best guess, the Schnaders being from the border area of Baden & Wurtemburg.  Spotts says that the Schnaders were following their friends the Webers, to Weaverland. Perhaps there was some knowledge that the Weber family were Swiss.  Apparently (from Source #11) Weaverland was initially called "Weberthal", after the Weber family; this too may be the source of the assumption of Swiss origins. This bears further research.
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* Weaverland appears to be a small community near the boundary of Earl and East Earl townships, on the south side of the Conestoga River, Lancaster Co. PA.  Terre Hill is nearby, north of the Conestoga River and nearer to Black Creek in East Earl Twp.
 
* Weaverland appears to be a small community near the boundary of Earl and East Earl townships, on the south side of the Conestoga River, Lancaster Co. PA.  Terre Hill is nearby, north of the Conestoga River and nearer to Black Creek in East Earl Twp.
  
 
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*The "Allen" ship's list of passengers includes Christian and Susan Schneider, presumed to be Johan Christian Schnaeder and wife Susanna Margaretha Ranck. If so, their infant daughter Margaretha, born in Switzerland, would be about 4 months old at sailing; she is not included on the passenger list.  In addition to them, two more Schneiders are listed, Mathew, and Magdalene. Mathew may be a brother or other relative of  Christian, with Magdalene possibly his wife.
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*The "Allen" ship's list of passengers includes Christian and Susan Schneider, presumed to be Johan Christian Schnaeder and wife Susanna Margaretha Ranck. If so, their infant daughter Margaretha, born in Switzerland, would be about 4 months old at sailing; she is not included on the passenger list.  In addition to them, two more Schneiders are listed, Mathew, and Magdalene.  
  
 
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* Research on origins of the Weber family (Swiss?) of Weberthal/Weaverland,  boundary area of Earl Twp. & East Earl Twp.,, and Bowman Lancaster Co. PA.
 

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Date Location Notes Sources
Birth ~1707 Kirchdorf, Argau, Switzerland
Palatine area on Swiss/German border 		[10][11][13]
Marriage ~1727 Germany To Susanna Margaretha Ranck [1][6]
Death ~1793 New Holland, Lancaster Co., PA [1]

Ancestry chart segment 

 Generation 8            Generation 9              Generation 10
 
                                      
                                                     
                                                         +-- Jacob Schneider
                                                         |   (1667-1726)
                          +-- Johan Christian Schnaeder--+ 
                          |   (1707-1793)                |   
 Johann Phillip Scneder --+                              +-- Elsa Klein
 (1740-<1800)             |                                  (????-????)
                          +-- Susanna Margaretha Ranck
                              (1707-1767)     
                                               
Sources: [1][2][3]

Children

(all children with Susanna Margaretha Ranck)

Name Gender Date of Birth Birthplace Spouse Notes Sources
Anna Maria Margaretha Scneder F 2 Feb 1729 Thierachenern, Bern, Switzerland d. May 1801 Chester Co. PA [3][10]
Elisabetha Scneder F b. 15 July 1732;
bapt. 8 Jun 1735 		New Holland, Lancaster Co. PA [3]
Johann Jacob Schnader M 25 Mar 1735 New Holland, Lancaster Co. PA Anna Maria Kitzmiller
(b. 11 May 1735 Lancaster Co. PA) 		d. ~1829, Lancaster Co. PA [3]
Johann Christian Scneder M b. 8 Mar 1738;
bapt.3 Apr 1738 		New Holland, Earl Twp., Lancaster Co. PA Elizabeth unknown(b.~1746); married in New Holland d. 22 Oct 1824, New Holland [3]
Johann Phillip Scneder M 15 Feb 1741 New Holland, Lancaster Co. PA Dorothy Mueller/Miller Direct Line
d.ed <1800 		[3]
Johann Michael Schnader M 9 May 1745 New Holland, Lancaster Co., PA Eleanora Mueller d. 2 Sept 1831, New Holland

Places of Residence

Location Dates Notes Sources
Switzerland ~1707 [1][13]
Thierachenern, Bern Switzerland by 1728/29 [1][11]
Weaverland, East Earl Twp.,Lancaster Co. PA 1729 [9][11][13]
near (present-day) Terre Hill, East Earl Twp.,Lancaster Co. PA 1733 [9]

Sources

Ref. Num. Description Image of original
1 "Descendants of Jacob Schneider" manuscript from JoAnn Cupp, including data from Scneder Bible records, church records and other sources. See full transcript with source list, at right.

Generation No. 1
Jacob Schneider was born 1667, died 1726. He married Elsa Klein.
Child of Jacob Schneider and Elsa Klein: Johan Christian Schnaeder.

Generation No. 2
Johan Christian Schnaeder, born 1707 in Switzerland; died ~1793 in New Holland, Lancaster Co. PA. He married Susanna Margaretha Ranck about 1727 in Germany .

Susanna Margaretha Ranck was a daughter of Hans Ranck & Margaretha Phillepes. Susanna Margaretha Ranck was born 29 Oct 1707 in Neckrau, Mannehim, Germany, and died 20 Jan 1767 in New Holland, Lancaster Co., PA. She was buried 23 Jan 1767 at New Holland Cemetery, Earl Twp., Lancaster Co. PA .


Generation No. 3
(Children of Johan Christian Schnaeder & Susanna Margaretha Ranck):
i . Anna Maria Margaretha Schneder, born 23 Feb 1728/29, Thierachenern, Bern, Switzerland; died May 1801, Chester Co., PA.
ii. Elisabetha Schneder born 15 July 1732, baptised 8 June 1735, Trinity Evangelical Lutheran Church, Lancaster Co. PA
iii. (4.) Johann Jacob Schnader , born 25 Mar. 1735, Lancaster Co., PA; died ~1829, Lancaster Co., PA.
iv. Johann Christian Schneder, born 8 Mar 1737/38 New Holland, Earl Twp., Lancaster Co., PA; baptised 3 Apr 1738 at Trinity Evangelical Lutheran Church, Lancaster Co. PA; died 22 Oct 1824, New Holland, Lancaster Co., PA . He married Elizabeth (surname unknown), in New Holland, Lancaster Co., PA. She was born ~1746.
v. (5.) Johann Phillip Scneder, born 15 Feb 1740/41, Lancaster Co., PA; died before 1800.
vi. (6.) Johann Michael Schnader, born 9 May 1745, New Holland, Lancaster Co., PA; died 2 Sept 1831, New Holland, Lancaster Co., PA.

Descendants of Jacob Schneider
2 Records of Pastoral Acts at Trinity Evangelical Lutheran church, New Holland, Lancaster Co., PA 1730-1799, translated by Schwalm & Weiser. Records birth of Johann Phillip Scneder.
3 Records of Trinity Lutheran Church, New Holland, Lancaster Co. PA, as in Pennsylvania Births Lancaster County 1723-1777 by John T. Humphrey, Humphrey Publications, Wash. D. C. 1997, p. 307.
Lists birth dates for Elisabetha, Joh. Christian, Joh. Philip, Johann Jacob & Margaretha Schadter; father is Christian Schnadter, mother not listed.
4 Memorial Record to John Christial Schneider

http://www.pa-roots.com/~lancaster/cemetery/trinity.html
Trinity Lutheran Church, New Holland, Lancaster Co, PA
"In Sacred Memory of:
John Christian Schneider and his Wife Susanna Margreta who Arrived In America Sept 15, 1729 on Ship "Allen"; Their son John Michael Schneider and his wife Eleanora Mueller; Their son Christian Schnader and his wife Margreta Diller; Their son Isaac Schnader and his wife Susanna Weaver; Their son Aaron Weaver Snader, his wife Sarah White Hufman And their family."
This file contributed by Cheryl Grove; clginvb@home.com
(See Copyright notice)
Note: The information in this memorial does not appear to be part of original church records but rather a later addition.

5 Rootsweb, Dargitz/Snader file by Jon Pennington, noted in correspondence of JoAnn Cupp; re. Johan Christian Schnaeder birth , marriage, and death data.
6 Passenger List, Ship Allen, 1729, from website "Historical Notes from the Church of the Brethern Network, http://www.cob-net.org/text/history_allen.htm
Ship Allen, James Craigie, Captain, from Rotterdam, last from Cowes on 7 July 1729, arrived 11 Sept. 1729 Philadelphia. List to courthouse 15 Sept. 1729 lists 59 Palatines; about 126 persons total on board. List includes Christian Schneider, Susan Schneider, Mathew Schneider and Magdalene Schneider.

See also:
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/7010/shiplists_pa1729.html#ALLEN
 (See complete passenger list)
7 Personal correspondence from JoAnn Cupp,(see Contributors page).
She forwarded records of Trinity Evangelical Lutheran church, New Holland, PA; Pennsylvania Births Lancaster County 1723-1777 by John T. Humphrey. She suggested to us the websites of Rootsweb - Dargitz/Snader file, & of the Church of the Brethern Network regarding the ship Allen.
8 Personal correspondence from Elizabeth Wilson Williams]
N/A
9 The Ranks of Rancks, research manuscript of J. Allan Skiles, 1978. Excerpt available online as "Brief History of the Ranck Family", Rank Heritage Center, at http://www.ranck.org/
Susanna Margaretha Ranck married 26 Feb 1725 to Johann Valentin Weinkraus. Christian Schneder & wife Susanna Margaretha (Ranck), & daughter Margaret arrived in Philadelphia 11 Sept. 1729 on Ship Allen. They settled originally in Weaverland, later on 133 acres south of present Terre Hill.
10 "Our Snader, Schnader, Schneder, Schneider Family History", website by Mark D. Stotzer

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~stotzer/snader.html
Stotzer cites the following research of D. A. Beavens for the Swiss connection; Beavens' sources are unspecified:
"JACOB SCHNADER /1 SCHNEDER was born in Switzerland near the boundary line of Baden & Wurtemburg, and died in came to (sic) America 11 Sep 1729 on the ship "Allen". "
See also Stotzer and Snader Family: Switzerland and USA by Mark Stotzer at:
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/s/t/o/Mark-D-Stotzer/

11 The People of Bowmansville , by Charles D. Spotts, Community Historians Annual, No. 9. (ref. from Stotzer site)

http://www.horseshoe.cc/pennadutch/places/pennsylvania/lancasterco/towns/bowmansville/bowmanvl.htm#spot
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~stotzer/snaderef.htm
http://www.horseshoe.cc/
Of the ship "Allen" passengers, on the Captain's list is spelled "Snyder"; on the Oath of Allegiance list, "Schneider," and on the Oath of Abjuration list, "Schneder." The names are Christian, Jacob, and Mathias; Magdelin and Susanah. Apparently two of the men were married. It is believed that the home of the Schneders was in Switzerland, near the boundary line of Baden and Wurtemburg. After landing at Philadelphia they soon started for (Weberthal) Weaverland, where their friends, George, Henry and Jacob Weber had preceded them by several years. The Schneders were followers of Zwingli, but the Webers were Mennonites.
"Information about the early generations of the Schneder family can be found in a small pamphlet by the late Reverend Charles B. Schneder, The Schneder Family, prepared for the Family Reunion, September 15, 1929, 37 pages. The writer has a copy in his files."
Of the three Schneders, Christian remained in Weaverland and became the progenitor, among many others, of the late Aaron W. Snader, Esquire, once member of the Legislature of Pennsylvania. Mathias and Jacob went northeast and took up, by patent, 250 acres of land about where Center Church now stands, two miles south of Bowmansville. Jacob also purchased land from William Morris, the Welshman who received one of the first warrants for land within Brecknock Township.

Extract from "Reformed & Lutheran Settlers of Weaverland"
12 Pennsylvania German Pioneers by Ralph B. Strassburger & Wm. J. Hinke, 1934; published by Penna. German Society, Norristown PA. List of ships to Philadelphia 1729 includes ship "Allen" 15 Sept 1729, James Craiges, Master.
  • List A (Captain's list), dated 11 Sept 1729 included: Christian Snyder, Jacob Snyder, Mathias Snyder, (no Snyder under age 15 listed), Susannah Snyder, Magdelin Snyder.
  • N.B. the Ship cleared from Cows in the Isle of Wight. "At the Courthouse of Philadelphia, September 15th, 1729...A List was presented of the names of Fifty nine Palatines, who with their Families, making in all about One hundred & twenty six Persons, were imported in the Ship Allen, James Craigie, Master, from Rotterdam, but last from Cows, as by Clearance thence dated 7th of July last." From the Minutes of the Provincial Council, printed in Colonial Records, Vol. III, pg. 368.
  • List B, Signers of the oath of allegiance to England, dated 15 Sept 1729, included: Christian Schneider, Mattdes Schneider; (Jacob Schneider does not appear on the list, but there is a name transcribed as Jacob Heider. No Jacob Heider appears on List A. It is possible that Jacob's script signature has been miss-transcribed from List B. )
    See: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/7010/shiplists_pa1729.html#ALLEN
13 Biographical Annals of Lancaster County Pennsylvania, J. H. Beers & Co. 1903, pgs 109-111.

Matheis Schneider; Jacob Schneider & wife Magdalen; and Christian Schneider & wife Susanna Margretha; with fifty-six other Palatinates and their families, sailed from Cowes, Isle of Wight, on 7 July 1729, in the ship "Allen", James Craigie, master. They landed at Philadelphia, and took the oath of allegiance to King George II of England, Sept. 15, 1729.
They originally came from northern Switzerland, near the boundary line of Baden and Wurtemberg, Germany. Some time prior to their coming to America went to Holland, thence to England, with a view of being transported to Pennsylvania. They settled in Weber-Thal, Lancaster Co., PA., where their friends, George Weber, Henry Weber and Jacob Weber, Swiss Memonites, had settled a few years earlier...

See full text

Source notes

  • Several of our sources seem to go back to the work of J. Allan Skiles.
  • Weaverland appears to be a small community near the boundary of Earl and East Earl townships, on the south side of the Conestoga River, Lancaster Co. PA. Terre Hill is nearby, north of the Conestoga River and nearer to Black Creek in East Earl Twp.

Conjecture

  • The "Allen" ship's list of passengers includes Christian and Susan Schneider, presumed to be Johan Christian Schnaeder and wife Susanna Margaretha Ranck. If so, their infant daughter Margaretha, born in Switzerland, would be about 4 months old at sailing; she is not included on the passenger list. In addition to them, two more Schneiders are listed, Mathew, and Magdalene.

Research Wishlist

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