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==UNDOCUMENTED ANCESTOR==
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CAUTION: THIS LINE OF RESEARCH IS UNDER REVIEW, AND WILL BE CHANGED.  There are obvious errors in the dates & information for ''Maria Covert''  which put the ancestry beyond this point in question. Note that the birth date given for Maria Covert (1590) precludes her being the parent of [[Resolved Waldron (1594)|Resolved Waldron]] (born 1594).  Her marriage date is given as 1610; this  is after the son was born. Either the dates for her are in error, or she is not the direct line ancestor.  She may be a 2nd wife of Johannes Waldron.<br>Note also that Johannes Waldron would be only 15 years old in 1594, when Resolved Waldron was born. Both of these names may be in error.  '''It appears that multiple individuals by the name Maria Govert are being tracked.  This page, from undocumented sources, is being temporarily retained only as a holding point for further research.  There appears to be an effort on many websites  to connect with Edward Waldron/Walderne I, by whatever means.  Please use advisedly, and post only with appropriate disclaimers.'''
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'''There are obvious errors in the dates & information for [[Maria Goverts]]  and [[Resolved Waldron (1594)]] which put their entire line of ancestry in question; see their pages.'''
 
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| '''Birth'''    || 1590 ||Harlem, Netherlands  || || <sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>  
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| '''Birth'''    || 1585 OR 1578 ||Amsterdam, Noord Holland, Netherlands  || || <sup class="reference">[W1][W2]</sup>  
 
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| ''' Marriage''' ||1610 ||Harlem, Netherlands || To [[Johannes Waldron]] (1579-1650) || <sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>  
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| '''Baptism'''   ||25 Dec 1593 ||Harlem, Netherlands   || || <sup class="reference">[W1][W2]</sup>  
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| '''Death'''    || 1650  ||  Waldron Hall, Amsterdam,<br>Noord-Holland, Netherlands || || <sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>
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| '''1st  Marriage''' ||1610 OR 1609  ||Harlem, Netherlands || To [[Johannes Waldron]](1579-1650) OR Johannes Willemsen Waldron  || <sup class="reference">[W1][W2]</sup>
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| '''2nd  Marriage''' ||16 Feb 1613/1614  ||Walloon Church, Amsterdam, Holland.  || To Daniel Adriaenszen Lernou  || <sup class="reference">[W2]</sup>
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| '''Death'''    || 1650<sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>;OR<br> after 1661<sup class="reference">[W2]</sup> ||  Waldron Hall, Amsterdam,<br>Noord-Holland, Netherlands || || <sup class="reference">[W1][W2]</sup>
 
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                      +-- [[Johannes Waldron]]   
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   [[Resolved  Waldron (1594)]] --+                       
 
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     (1594- 1670)     |                  +-- Unknown   
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     (1594- 1670)             |                  +-- Govert Jans 
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                      +-- ''Maria Covert'' --+
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                            +-- ''Maria Covert'' --+
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                          (1590-1650)    |
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                                        +-- Unknown
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   Sources: <sup class="reference">[W1][W2]</sup>
  
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=Children with [[Johannes Waldron]] =
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Children with [[Johannes Waldron]]
 
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|  [[Resolved Waldron (1594)]]    ||M  ||1594  ||Amsterdam, N- Holland || [[Maria Goverts]] (1610-1690)    ||died 1670 at <br> Harlem NY ||<sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>
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|  [[Resolved Waldron (1594)]]    ||M  ||1594  ||Amsterdam, N- Holland || [[Maria Goverts]] (1585-????)    ||died 1670 at <br> Harlem NY ||<sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>
  
 
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This tree lists 6 generations of the Waldron family, plus spouses: siblings Judith and Daniel Waldron<Joseph Waldron< Resolved Waldron < Johannes Waldron < Edward Waldron.<br>
 
This tree lists 6 generations of the Waldron family, plus spouses: siblings Judith and Daniel Waldron<Joseph Waldron< Resolved Waldron < Johannes Waldron < Edward Waldron.<br>
 
''Johannes Waldron'' born 1579 in Alcester, Warwickshire, England; died 1650 at Waldron Hall, Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, netherlands ; spouse [[Maria Covert]] (1590-1650); parents [[Edward Waldron]] (1552-1619) and [[Mary Hunt]] (1560-1620); no siblings shown.<br>This site lists as its only source other Ancestry.com family trees.
 
''Johannes Waldron'' born 1579 in Alcester, Warwickshire, England; died 1650 at Waldron Hall, Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, netherlands ; spouse [[Maria Covert]] (1590-1650); parents [[Edward Waldron]] (1552-1619) and [[Mary Hunt]] (1560-1620); no siblings shown.<br>This site lists as its only source other Ancestry.com family trees.
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|'''The Waldrons of Greene County, NY and Beyond - Family Page''', a semi-documented family tree prepared by Ronald Allan Waldron pf Leeds NY. See: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/a/l/Ronald-A-Waldron/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0103.html
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* Maria Goverts, (dau. of Govert Jans & Pieterje Michiels) born 1585 in Amsterdam, Noord Holland, Netherlands, and died after 1661 in probably Haarlem, Holland. (Sources 206 & 207 his website: R.A. Waldron quotes emails from two other researchers,  their sources not given).
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* Maria Goverts married(1st) Johannes Willemsen Waldron in 1609 in Harlem Holland, son of William Walderne of Alcester and Agnes Dislin. (Source 209 his website: R.A. Waldron quotes FamilySearch.org/Ancestral File, and says "Since the information in Ancestral File is contributed, it is the responsibility of those who use the file to verify its accuracy".  If he has verified it, there is no notation of such.
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* Maria Goverts married (2nd) Daniel Adriaenszen Lernou on Feb. 16, 1613/14 in Walloon Church, Amsterdam, Holland, son of Adrien Lernout, of Walloon Church of Amsterdam, and Lea De Monstreul. (Again, from other researchers, their documents not noted.)<br> Note: Sources noted by R.A. Waldron seem to be primarily other researchers, with their primary/secondary sources not documented.  Any data with primary/secondary source information will be listed above, in our Sources section.
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=Source Notes=
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* Source W2 -The Waldron Family of Greene County NY... lists spouses Annetje Daniels and Joseph Willemszen Waldron as half-siblings, both children of Maria Goverts (1585-after 1661) but with different fathers.  (If correct, this explains why the research on Maria Goverts has seemed to lead back on itself illogically.)  On this website, two marriages are listed for Maria Goverts, and it is unclear whether they believe there to have been two marriages, or whether they are just listing all found information on the name Maria Goverts. '''It is highly possible that two different individuals are being traced, possibly one from Amsterdam and one from Haarlem.'''

Latest revision as of 07:58, 28 June 2011


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[edit] Native of Holland


[edit] UNDOCUMENTED ANCESTOR

CAUTION: THIS LINE OF RESEARCH IS UNDER REVIEW, AND WILL BE CHANGED. There are obvious errors in the dates & information for Maria Covert which put the ancestry beyond this point in question. Note that the birth date given for Maria Covert (1590) precludes her being the parent of Resolved Waldron (born 1594). Her marriage date is given as 1610; this is after the son was born. Either the dates for her are in error, or she is not the direct line ancestor. She may be a 2nd wife of Johannes Waldron.
Note also that Johannes Waldron would be only 15 years old in 1594, when Resolved Waldron was born. Both of these names may be in error. It appears that multiple individuals by the name Maria Govert are being tracked. This page, from undocumented sources, is being temporarily retained only as a holding point for further research. There appears to be an effort on many websites to connect with Edward Waldron/Walderne I, by whatever means. Please use advisedly, and post only with appropriate disclaimers.



Date Location Notes Sources
Birth 1585 OR 1578 Amsterdam, Noord Holland, Netherlands [W1][W2]
Baptism 25 Dec 1593 Harlem, Netherlands [W1][W2]
1st Marriage 1610 OR 1609 Harlem, Netherlands To Johannes Waldron(1579-1650) OR Johannes Willemsen Waldron [W1][W2]
2nd Marriage 16 Feb 1613/1614 Walloon Church, Amsterdam, Holland. To Daniel Adriaenszen Lernou [W2]
Death 1650[W1];OR
after 1661[W2] 		Waldron Hall, Amsterdam,
Noord-Holland, Netherlands 		[W1][W2]
Burial

[edit] Ancestry chart segment 

Generation 13                   Generation 14     Generation 15          
                                                                   
                                             
                            +-- Johannes Waldron  
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 Resolved  Waldron (1594) --+                       
   (1594- 1670)             |                  +-- Govert Jans   
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                            +-- Maria Covert --+
                                (1593-1650)    |
                                               +-- Pieterje Michiels
                    
     
 Sources: [W1][W2]

[edit] Children

Children with Johannes Waldron

Name Gender Date of Birth Birthplace Spouse Notes Sources
Resolved Waldron (1594) M 1594 Amsterdam, N- Holland Maria Goverts (1585-????) died 1670 at
Harlem NY 		[W1]

[edit] Places of Residence

Location Dates Notes Sources
Harlem, Netherlands b. 1590-at least till m. 1610 [W1]
Waldron Hall, Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands d. 1650 [W1]


[edit] Sources

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[edit] DISCLAIMER: USE OF UNDOCUMENTED WEB SOURCES

Some of the information on this page was found on websites presented by researchers who have either not listed their sources completely or employ the circular logic of citing additional undocumented websites.
These web site sources are listed separately below. The attribution number for these web sources is preceded by a "W".
As we frequently find conflicting information on the web family trees, we offer the un-sourced information here as a starting point for further research only. We discourage its inclusion on additional posted websites or in other reproduced material without either further documentation or a disclaimer.


[edit] Web Sites - Documentation Incomplete

Ref. Num. Description Extract
W1 "Kircher Family tree", at Ancestry.com. Owner: royalribbonsfarm.

http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/person.aspx?tid=3086178&pid=-1158918341
This tree lists 6 generations of the Waldron family, plus spouses: siblings Judith and Daniel Waldron<Joseph Waldron< Resolved Waldron < Johannes Waldron < Edward Waldron.
Johannes Waldron born 1579 in Alcester, Warwickshire, England; died 1650 at Waldron Hall, Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, netherlands ; spouse Maria Covert (1590-1650); parents Edward Waldron (1552-1619) and Mary Hunt (1560-1620); no siblings shown.
This site lists as its only source other Ancestry.com family trees.

W2 The Waldrons of Greene County, NY and Beyond - Family Page, a semi-documented family tree prepared by Ronald Allan Waldron pf Leeds NY. See: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/a/l/Ronald-A-Waldron/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0103.html
  • Maria Goverts, (dau. of Govert Jans & Pieterje Michiels) born 1585 in Amsterdam, Noord Holland, Netherlands, and died after 1661 in probably Haarlem, Holland. (Sources 206 & 207 his website: R.A. Waldron quotes emails from two other researchers, their sources not given).
  • Maria Goverts married(1st) Johannes Willemsen Waldron in 1609 in Harlem Holland, son of William Walderne of Alcester and Agnes Dislin. (Source 209 his website: R.A. Waldron quotes FamilySearch.org/Ancestral File, and says "Since the information in Ancestral File is contributed, it is the responsibility of those who use the file to verify its accuracy". If he has verified it, there is no notation of such.
  • Maria Goverts married (2nd) Daniel Adriaenszen Lernou on Feb. 16, 1613/14 in Walloon Church, Amsterdam, Holland, son of Adrien Lernout, of Walloon Church of Amsterdam, and Lea De Monstreul. (Again, from other researchers, their documents not noted.)
    Note: Sources noted by R.A. Waldron seem to be primarily other researchers, with their primary/secondary sources not documented. Any data with primary/secondary source information will be listed above, in our Sources section.

[edit] Source Notes

  • Source W2 -The Waldron Family of Greene County NY... lists spouses Annetje Daniels and Joseph Willemszen Waldron as half-siblings, both children of Maria Goverts (1585-after 1661) but with different fathers. (If correct, this explains why the research on Maria Goverts has seemed to lead back on itself illogically.) On this website, two marriages are listed for Maria Goverts, and it is unclear whether they believe there to have been two marriages, or whether they are just listing all found information on the name Maria Goverts. It is highly possible that two different individuals are being traced, possibly one from Amsterdam and one from Haarlem.
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