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| '''Birth'''    ||    ||Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands  || || <sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>  
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| '''Birth'''    ||    ||Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands  || || <sup class="reference">[W1][W2]</sup>  
 
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| ''' Marriage''' ||  || || To [[Maria Goverts]] (1610-1690) || <sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>  
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| ''' Marriage''' ||  || || To [[Maria Goverts]] (1585-????) || <sup class="reference">[W1][W2] </sup>  
  
 
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   Sources: <sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>
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=Children with [[Maria  Goverts]] =
 
=Children with [[Maria  Goverts]] =
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! Name || Gender || Date of Birth || Birthplace || Spouse || Notes || Sources
 
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|  [[Resolved Waldron (II)]]    ||M  ||1610/1616  ||Amsterdam, N- Holland ||    ||died 17 May 1690 at <br>Horns Hook, Harlem NY ||<sup class="reference">[1][W1]</sup>
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|  [[Resolved Waldron (II)]]    ||M  ||1610/1616  ||Amsterdam, N- Holland ||    ||died 17 May 1690 at <br>Horns Hook, Harlem NY ||<sup class="reference">[1][W2]</sup>
 
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|  [[Joseph Waldron]]    ||M  ||1620  ||Amsterdam, N- Holland || Annetje Daniels (1623-1688)    ||died 1663 at <br>New Amsterdam, NY<br>Direct Line ||<sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>
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|  [[Joseph Waldron]]    ||M  ||1620  ||Amsterdam, N- Holland || Annetje Daniels (1623-1688)    ||died 1663 at <br>New Amsterdam, NY<br>Direct Line ||<sup class="reference">[W2]</sup>
 
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! Location || Dates || Notes || Sources
 
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|Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands  || b. 1594 - ????  || || <sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>
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|Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands  || b. 1594 - ????  || || <sup class="reference">[W2]</sup>
 
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|Harlem, New York  ||d. 1670  || || <sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>
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|Harlem, New York  ||d. 1670  || || <sup class="reference">[W2]</sup>
 
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http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/person.aspx?tid=3086178&pid=-1158918341<br>
 
http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/person.aspx?tid=3086178&pid=-1158918341<br>
 
This tree lists 6 generations of the Waldron family, plus spouses:  
 
This tree lists 6 generations of the Waldron family, plus spouses:  
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*siblings Judith (1675-1760) and Daniel Waldron (1650-1691) + Sara Rutgers (1643-1738)
 
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* Joseph Waldron (1620-1663) + Annetje Daniels (1623-1688)
 
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* Resolved Waldron(1594-1670) + Maria Goverts (1610-1690)''ERROR, same entry as son Resolved Waldron's dates'' 
 
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* Johannes Waldron (1570-1650)+ Maria Covert (1590-1650)
 
 
* Edward Waldron (1552-1619) + Mary Hunt (1560-1620).<br>
 
* Edward Waldron (1552-1619) + Mary Hunt (1560-1620).<br>
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''Resolved Waldron'' born 1594 in Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands; died 1670 Harlem, NY. <br>This site lists as a source the "U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900", see above.
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* Johannes Waldron (1570-1650)+ Maria Covert (1590-1650)
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* Resolved Waldron(1594-1670) + Maria Goverts (1610-1690)'' ERROR, same entry as her son Resolved Waldron's dates''
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* Joseph Waldron (1620-1663) + Annetje Daniels (1623-1688); Joseph's brother Resolved Waldron (1610-1690)
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* siblings Judith (1675-1760) and Daniel Waldron (1650-1691) + Sara Rutgers (1643-1738)<br>''Resolved Waldron'' born 1594 in Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands; died 1670 Harlem, NY.  
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<br>This site lists as a source the "U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900", see above.
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<br>NOTE: We are making the assumption that "Maria Goverts (1610-1690)" is a simple miss-transcription of dates, and not an indication that there is another Maria Goverts in the records; the coincidence is too unlikely. We are proceeding on the assumption that records re. the parentage of this Maria Goverts are still pertinent to this lineage.
  
 
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Revision as of 15:33, 8 February 2009


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Native of Amsterdam, Holland

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Immigrant to New Amsterdam, Dutch colony in America


UNDOCUMENTED ANCESTRY

We find numerous sources with tantalizing data, but hesitate to adopt their findings when:

  • the lines of descent conflict from one web source to another.
  • documentation & sources are absent or insufficient
  • the sources listed are unavailable to us, so that scope or ambiguity can't be assessed

We offer this page as an ancestral possibility, with the caveat that it is unconfirmed by us.


We caution your use of this line of ancestry without further research and documentation. At present, we are posting this skeleton of names, to facilitate our research for primary & secondary sources. The source for this line [W1] does not give sources beyond "other family trees" presumably also on Ancestry.com. Resolved Waldron (born 1594) is said to have immigrated to New Amsterdam. His wife Maria Goverts however, who outlived him by 20 years, died in the Netherlands. She is supposedly born in 1610; their son Resolved Waldron (II) is also supposedly born in 1610. The marriage date for Maria Goverts and Resolved Waldron (1594) is said to be 1603, seven years before her birth date. There are obviously errors; proceed with caution.

Date Location Notes Sources
Birth Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands [W1][W2]
Marriage To Maria Goverts (1585-????) [W1][W2]
Death 1670 Harlem, NY [W1]
Burial

Ancestry chart segment 

  Generation 12              Generation 13                  Generation 14

                                                        +-- Johannes Waldron
                                                        |   (1579-1650)
                         +-- Resolved  Waldron (1594) --+
                         |   (1594- 1670)               |
                         |                              +-- Maria Covert
                         |                                  (1590-1650)
 Joseph Waldron ---------+                            
 (????-1663)             |         
                         |                              +-- Govert Jans 
                         |                              |   (1565-1617)
                         +-- Maria Goverts -------------+
                             (1610-1690)                |
                                                        +-- Pieterje Michiels
                                                            (1570-1634)
                  
     
 Sources: [W2]

Children with Maria Goverts

Name Gender Date of Birth Birthplace Spouse Notes Sources
Resolved Waldron (II) M 1610/1616 Amsterdam, N- Holland died 17 May 1690 at
Horns Hook, Harlem NY 		[1][W2]
Joseph Waldron M 1620 Amsterdam, N- Holland Annetje Daniels (1623-1688) died 1663 at
New Amsterdam, NY
Direct Line 		[W2]

Places of Residence

Location Dates Notes Sources
Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands b. 1594 - ???? [W2]
Harlem, New York d. 1670 [W2]


Sources

Ref. Num. Description Image of original
1 Resolved Waldron's Descendants, Vanderpoel Branch, compiled by James Henry Slipper 1910. copy at MN Hist. Soc. Library, St. Paul MN, extracted 2008 by Elizabeth Wilson Williams.
Note: Resolved Waldron in these notes is the son of Resolved Waldron born 1594, and the brother of our direct line Joseph Waldron.
  • Johannes Waldron, grandfather of Resolved Waldron
  • Resolvert Waldron b. 1616, emigrated 1650.(Refers to sources "Waldron Ancestry" and "Riker's History of Harlem".)
  • Resolved Waldron received patent of land east end of Manhatten called New Harlem, where his grandson Johannes built mansion with bricks imported from Holland and named it Waldron Hall, Horne Hook.
  • Resolved died 1690; left estate to 4th son Samuel. (Refers to "New Harlem Register" at N.Y. Hist. Soc. Library, a genealogy of the descendants of the 23 original patentees of the town of New Harlem, with proofs of births, baptism & marriages from 1630-1903.)


DISCLAIMER: USE OF UNDOCUMENTED WEB SOURCES

Some of the information on this page was found on websites presented by researchers who have either not listed their sources completely or employ the circular logic of citing additional undocumented websites.
These web site sources are listed separately below. The attribution number for these web sources is preceded by a "W".
As we frequently find conflicting information on the web family trees, we offer the un-sourced information here as a starting point for further research only. We discourage its inclusion on additional posted websites or in other reproduced material without either further documentation or a disclaimer.


Web Sites - Documentation Incomplete

Ref. Num. Description
W1 "U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900", Yates Publishing, [database on-line] Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network Inc., 2004.
found on ancestry.com at http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=worldmarr_ga&h=1271514&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt
Resolved Waldron b. 1594, place of birth "Ho", spouse Maria Goverts b. 1585.
(This site lists unsourced material from submitted family trees.)
W2 "Kircher Family tree", at Ancestry.com. Owner: royalribbonsfarm.

http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/person.aspx?tid=3086178&pid=-1158918341
This tree lists 6 generations of the Waldron family, plus spouses:

  • Edward Waldron (1552-1619) + Mary Hunt (1560-1620).
  • Johannes Waldron (1570-1650)+ Maria Covert (1590-1650)
  • Resolved Waldron(1594-1670) + Maria Goverts (1610-1690) ERROR, same entry as her son Resolved Waldron's dates
  • Joseph Waldron (1620-1663) + Annetje Daniels (1623-1688); Joseph's brother Resolved Waldron (1610-1690)
  • siblings Judith (1675-1760) and Daniel Waldron (1650-1691) + Sara Rutgers (1643-1738)
    Resolved Waldron born 1594 in Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands; died 1670 Harlem, NY.


This site lists as a source the "U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900", see above.


NOTE: We are making the assumption that "Maria Goverts (1610-1690)" is a simple miss-transcription of dates, and not an indication that there is another Maria Goverts in the records; the coincidence is too unlikely. We are proceeding on the assumption that records re. the parentage of this Maria Goverts are still pertinent to this lineage.

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