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THIS PAGE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. SOME CONJECTURAL DATA IS LISTED TEMPORARILY (i.e. John J. Myers as husband of Hannah Stoughton in 2 census; this assumption has problems). Please see the Research section at bottom of page.

Hannah Stoughton was probably born in Muddy Creek Twp., Butler County, PA. She was a young child, about 5 years old, when her mother, Susan Harvey, died. Her father moved by 1848 to Callensberg in Clarion Co. and remarried when Hannah was six; her step-mother Susan Myer raised her.

Ancestry chart segment

  Generation 5                   Generation 6                    Generation 7          
 
                                             
                                              
                                                    +-- John Stoughton  
                                                    |   (1773-1833)      
                    +-- Barnard VanZant Stoughton --+                    
                    |            (1817-1887)        |                         
 Hannah Stoughton --+                               +-- Catherine Covert
                    |                                   (1778->1850)
                    +-- Susan Harvey
                        (1817-1847)
 Sources:  [9] 

Children

Places of Residence

Photos

Gravestone of Hannah, wife of John J. Myers, Licking Cemetery, Curllsville, Clarion Co. PA

Sources

Ref. Num.	Description	Image of original
1	1840 United States Federal Census, Muddy Creek Twp, Butler Co, PA, page 23. Census is not dated. Family headed by Barnard Stoeton(sic): 2 males <5, 1 male 10-15, 1 male 20-30, 1 female 20-30. Note: the male and female in their 20's are the proper ages for Barnard Stoughton and his wife Susan. The two youngest males are likely to be their children, but the 10-15 year old seems too old to be a child of someone in their 20's. Family headed by Margaret Stoeton is two entries earlier; William Wimer is next entry.
2	1850 United States Federal Census, Piney Twp, Clarion Co, PA, page 24. Previous page dated 30 Sept. 1850. Lines 16-25: B.W. Stoughton, 33, shoemake; Susannah, 33; John, 14; Joseph, 12; Elliott, 10; Hannah, 8; Catharine, 6; Susannah, 4; Jane, 2; Elizabeth, 1/2. John, Joseph, Elliott and Hannah attended school.
3	1860 United States Federal Census, Tionesta Twp, Venango Co, PA, page 13. Census dated 15 Aug 1860. Lines 6-14:D.V. Stoten, 42, farmer, $500 real, $150 personal property; Susan, 46; Joseph, 21, farmer; E.H., 18, farmer; Hannah, 18, house keeping; Catherine, 16, house keeping; June, 12; Elizabeth, 10; Ida, 7. All b. PA. Note: discrepancy in the name of Barnard V. ( as D.V.)Stoughton is likely a notational error by the census taker.
4	1870 United States Federal Census, Piney Twp., Clarion Co. PA. P.O. Curllsville. Date of census: 10 June 1870. CONJECTURAL SOURCE Lines 4-5: Myers, Jno. J. age 45, farmer, $1000 real estate, $200 personal property. Hannah Myers age 29. Both born in PA.
5	1880 United States Federal Census, Piney Twp., Clarion Co. PA, pg. 13. Census dae 10 June 1880.CONJECTURAL SOURCE Lines 7-9: Myers, John J., white male age 63, farmer. Hannah M. age 39, wife, keeping house. Hermon, Sarah age 19, hired girl. All, and all parents, born in PA.
6	1900 United States Federal Census
7	1910 United States Federal Census
8	Memories by Jennie Stoughton Osborn, Copyright 1935, Medicine Lodge, Kansas. Pg. 2 "My mother was living on her farm near Matildaville, Pennsylvania when she met my father, Barnard VanZant Stoughton, who was working at his trade, the shoe business, in Kalensburg, Armstrong, Co., Pa. When I was about a year old they moved out to my mother's farm and there my two younger sisters were born. They then gathered the rest of the children into the home where those mischievous boys kept things stirring." Pg. 3 "My mother, Susan Myer, had been the wife of John Hagan who died when they had been married twelve years, leaving her with one little boy, John Edward Hagan. Father had married Susan Harvey, but she died leaving six children: John, Joseph, Elliott, Hannah, Catharine, and Susan Blanche, the baby whom the mother gave to her sister, a Mrs. Dustin, who took her to Illinois... When we left mother's farm, we moved to Clarion County on a farm owned by one of mother's brothers and lived there one year; but father could not farm and do much at his trade too. So we moved into a little burg named Bellville. It was a crossroad town of a few houses, ...Sligo Furnace was (2 miles) south, Madison Furnace five miles west, Polk Furnace four miles north, and Curlville three miles East." Pg. 12 "While we younger children were growing up, two of our brothers and two of our sisters were married. One brother Elliott went to Washington state, and Joseph in the Civil War was taken prisoner" (Joseph died before end of the war). Note, per J. Voltz: John and Elliot were the older brothers. Hannah, Catherine, and Susan Blanche were her older sisters, but Susan didn't get married until after the move west. This means Hannah must have been married, probably to someone in Tionesta, Venango County since that was her last known residence. (Note: Tionesta changed to Forest County around that time). It doesn't seem like Jennie ever mentioned her again...From the way Jennie states things, Hannah's husband probably survived the war, but it isn't conclusive. Hannah didn't go west, so I presume that Forest County is the best place to look in the 1870 census for a Hannah born in 1842. She had to be close enough that Jennie could make winter visits. Brother John returned to Forest County before 1900. I wonder if he wanted to be close to his only family member in the area.	See full text
9	James Voltz correspondence 2008, ongoing: jlv100@psu.edu
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Source notes

Research Notes

Tracing Hannah Stoughton, we follow this logic, from Jim Voltz:

• Remember that Susan Myers (b. 1814) of Piney Twp., Clarion Co. PA married 1st John Hagan, & married 2nd Barnard V. Stoughton, father of Hannah Stoughton. Susan Myers was thus step-mother to Hannah Stoughton. Hannah is found in the census 1840-1860 in her parents' household.

• In 1970 & 1880 census for Piney Twp., Clarion Co. PA we find a Hannah M. (born PA ca. 1841), wife of John J. Myers (b. ~1817), and (in 1880) a servant girl Sarah Hermon age 19 (born ~1861). Who is Sarah Hermon?
• In 1870 census, ancestry.com's search engine found no Sarah Hermon listed in PA. Could Sarah "Hermon" actually be Sarah Hagan, perhaps related to John Hagan, first husband of Susan Myers? That is, perhaps Hannah was housing as a servant girl her step-mother's (niece perhaps)from her first marriage. Is there any evidence for a Sarah Hagan in the family of John Hagan?
• Could this John Myers (of the 1880 census) be the brother of Susan Myer (b. ~1810), step-mother of Hannah Stoughton? At 63 years old (b. 1817), he could be, age wise. We don't know the parents of Susan.

• In 1850 census, Piney Twp., Clarion Co., PA, lines 29-41, are 3 Myers households, living next to each other. It appears that John & Elizabeth Myers are parents of 3 children (John, Valentine & James) living with them, and probably parents of Jacob and Joseph, both of whom are married but appear to live on either side of John & Elizabeth.

Myers Jacob 30 M W Farmer 800 Pa.
Myers Sarah 26 F W . . Pa.
Myers Sarah 5 F W . . Pa.
Myers John 4 M W . . Pa.
Myers Henry 2 M W . . Pa.
Myers Valentine 5/12 M W . . Pa.

Myers John 71 M W Farmer 800 Pa.
Myers Elizabeth 65 F W . . Pa.
Myers John 34 M W Farmer . Pa.
Myers Valentine 32 M W . . Pa.
Myers James 18 M W Farmer . Pa.

Myers Joseph 28 M W Laborer 600 Pa.
Myers Margaret 21 F W . . Pa.

• In 1860 census (Piney Twp, Clarion Co, PA, page 15):

lines 29-32:
John Myers, 40, farmer
next household:
James Myers 25, farmer
Elizabeth Myers 75 W(widow)
Elizabeth Johnson, 26 servant
This appears to be John living next to his brother James. Their mother is living with James.

• John Myers (age 34 in 1850,b. ~1816) has a brother Valentine (age 32 in 1850, b. ~1818); more below on Valentine.

• John Edward Hagan (son of Susan Myer and 1st husband John Hagan) was living with the family of Valentine Myers (b. ~1825) in 1860.

• This Valentine Myers may be Susan Myer's family, i.e. John Edward Hagan's mother's family. This Valentine Myer's father was most likely John Myers seen above in the 1850 census, even though Valentine's age/birth year wobbles by 7 years).

• We surmise, there was a John Myers who was most likely Valentine's brother (b. 1816) and wasn't married at age 34. His sister Susan Myers was already married to Barnard V. Stoughton at this point. It is likely that through Susan Myers Stoughton, her brother John Myers came to know her step-daughter Hannah Stoughton.

• We need: 1)Obituaries from Clarion Newspaper for Hannah Myers, John J. Myers. 2)Evidence of a Sarah Hagan in family of John Hagan.

See: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=myers&GSfn=hannah&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSst=40&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=20956000&df=all Gravestone for Hannah (A?), wife of John J. Myers, died Jan 15, 1888, aged 49 yrs & 12 days. Page is titled "Hannah M. Stoughton Myers". Copyright by Pamela Myers-Grewell. In personal communication from Pamela, the linking of Hannah Stoughton to John J. Myers is at present conjecture. "Hannah M." came from the 1880 census of John J. Myers, but the gravestone appears to say "Hannah A."
According to P.M. Brewell's research/family interviews, this Hannah was born Jan 3, 1839 and d. Jan 15, 1888 - buried at Licking Cemetery near Curllsville, Clarion Co., PA. (Due to a lot of confusion and multiple double-listing of memorials, FindAGrave merged Churchville and Licking cemeteries, which are both rather small and border one another). (The Myers) are actually buried in Licking Cemetery but may appear as Churchville in FindAGrave memorials. John died some time after the 1880 census, but before 1900 apparently. According to notes from interviews of elders, John married a little late in life - being over 40 - and he and Hannah never had any children of their own.

P.M. Grewell also has posted a family tree, "Descendants of John & Elizabeth Myers" on Rootsweb; see: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pacpiney/index_files/myers.htm Here, John J. Myers has spouse Hannah M. (no surname). Her dates are 1841-1888. This matches the Hannah of the John J. Myers census data.

SUMMARY OF THE ABOVE: That Hannah Stoughton may have married a Myers sounds plausible since her step-mother was a Myers, and the step-mother's son worked for/resided with a Valentine Myers. There is a Hannah M., born about the same time as Hannah Stoughton (birth dates calc. from census), married to John J. Myers (census 1870, 1880, & gravestone for Hanna (A.) wife of John J. Myers). This is tantalizing, but very inconclusive. Hannah was a very common name.

AN ALTERNATIVE JOHN MYERS

• The 1850,1860, & 1870 census below could be a first marriage for John Myers; the location seems reasonable. John Myers was middle aged when he married Hannah, and a first marriage might make sense.

1850, Toby Twp., Clarion Co. PA: John Myers 36, Lavinia 28, Ealy J. 7, Daniel Myers 22.

1860 Toby Twp., Clarion Co. PA, P.O. Rimersburg: John Myers 49, Levina Myers 33, Emily J Myers 17, John W. Morgan 10.

1870 census Toby Township, Clarion Co. Pa, pg.9. Date of census 21 July 1870.
Lines 5-7: Myers, John, age 53, male white, (Ritman Farms?), $1500 real estate, $400 personal estate. Lavinia, age 47. Mary Ann, age 12, in school. All born in PA.

However, from P. M. Grewell: John Myers md. to Lavina (with a Valentine Myers connection) - that is John Valentine Myers. He was a son of Valentine Myers & Sarah Krotzer Eaker, grandson of Samuel Myers & Catherine Hulings. (They are possibly related to her family; unproven. She doesn't believe this John Myers is the husband of Hannah Stoughton. Per her family interviews, John J. Myers, husband of Hannah M., was over age 40 before he married.