Maria Covert - Revision history

Liz: move "The Waldrons of Greene County NY" from Source 1 to Source W2, as his sources are other researchers primarily, undocumented; enter birth, marriage data to vitals chart

2011-06-28T13:58:48Z

move "The Waldrons of Greene County NY" from Source 1 to Source W2, as his sources are other researchers primarily, undocumented; enter birth, marriage data to vitals chart

Liz: Source 1, The Waldrons of Green Co NY by Ronald Allan Waldron; source note re this effect on the research

2011-06-27T15:15:14Z

Source 1, The Waldrons of Green Co NY by Ronald Allan Waldron; source note re this effect on the research

Liz: /* Children with Johannes Waldron */ reformat

2009-02-08T23:39:25Z

‎Children with Johannes Waldron: reformat

Liz: /* Ancestry chart segment */ alignment

2009-02-08T23:38:29Z

‎Ancestry chart segment: alignment

Liz: /* UNDOCUMENTED ANCESTOR */ word change

2009-02-08T23:37:19Z

‎UNDOCUMENTED ANCESTOR: word change

Liz: revised Undocumented Ancestor disclaimer

2009-02-08T23:36:10Z

revised Undocumented Ancestor disclaimer

Liz: /* Children with Johannes Waldron */ date correction Maria Goverts

2009-02-08T23:19:03Z

‎Children with Johannes Waldron: date correction Maria Goverts

Liz: /* Ancestry chart segment */ chart alignment

2009-02-08T23:18:16Z

‎Ancestry chart segment: chart alignment

Liz: Note re illogical dates; possibly 2nd wife & not direct line

2009-02-08T23:14:28Z

Note re illogical dates; possibly 2nd wife & not direct line

Liz: reformatting of message box (content lost; reworded)

2009-01-03T17:29:19Z

reformatting of message box (content lost; reworded)

@@ Line 8: / Line 8: @@
 | style="padding-right: 4px; padding-left: 4px;"|
 ==UNDOCUMENTED ANCESTOR==
-CAUTION: THIS LINE OF RESEARCH IS UNDER REVIEW, AND WILL BE CHANGED.  There are obvious errors in the dates & information for ''Maria Covert''  which put the ancestry beyond this point in question. Note that the birth date given for Maria Covert (1590) precludes her being the parent of [[Resolved Waldron (1594)|Resolved Waldron]] (born 1594).  Her marriage date is given as 1610; this  is after the son was born. Either the dates for her are in error, or she is not the direct line ancestor.  She may be a 2nd wife of Johannes Waldron.<br>Note also that Johannes Waldron would be only 15 years old in 1594, when Resolved Waldron was born. Both of these names may be in error. This page, from undocumented sources, is being temporarily retained only as a holding point for further research.  There appears to be an effort on many websites  to connect with Edward Waldron/Walderne I, by whatever means.   Please use advisedly, and post only with appropriate disclaimers.
+CAUTION: THIS LINE OF RESEARCH IS UNDER REVIEW, AND WILL BE CHANGED.  There are obvious errors in the dates & information for ''Maria Covert''  which put the ancestry beyond this point in question. Note that the birth date given for Maria Covert (1590) precludes her being the parent of [[Resolved Waldron (1594)|Resolved Waldron]] (born 1594).  Her marriage date is given as 1610; this  is after the son was born. Either the dates for her are in error, or she is not the direct line ancestor.  She may be a 2nd wife of Johannes Waldron.<br>Note also that Johannes Waldron would be only 15 years old in 1594, when Resolved Waldron was born. Both of these names may be in error.  '''It appears that multiple individuals by the name Maria Govert are being tracked.  This page, from undocumented sources, is being temporarily retained only as a holding point for further research.  There appears to be an effort on many websites  to connect with Edward Waldron/Walderne I, by whatever means.   Please use advisedly, and post only with appropriate disclaimers.'''
 |}
@@ Line 17: / Line 17: @@
 !  || Date || Location || Notes || Sources
 |-
-| '''Birth'''    || 1590  ||Harlem, Netherlands   || || <sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>
+| '''Birth'''    || 1585 OR 1578  ||Amsterdam, Noord Holland, Netherlands   || || <sup class="reference">[W1][W2]</sup>
 |-
-| ''' Marriage''' ||1610  ||Harlem, Netherlands || To [[Johannes Waldron]] (1579-1650) || <sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>
+| '''Baptism'''    ||25 Dec 1593  ||Harlem, Netherlands   || || <sup class="reference">[W1][W2]</sup>
+|-
 |-
-| '''Death'''    || 1650  ||  Waldron Hall, Amsterdam,<br>Noord-Holland, Netherlands || || <sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>
+| '''Death'''    || 1650<sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>;OR<br> after 1661<sup class="reference">[W2]</sup>  ||  Waldron Hall, Amsterdam,<br>Noord-Holland, Netherlands || || <sup class="reference">[W1][W2]</sup>
 |-
 | '''Burial''' || ||   || || <sup class="reference"></sup>
@@ Line 36: / Line 39: @@
+                              |
    [[Resolved  Waldron (1594)]] --+
-     (1594- 1670)             |                  +-- Unknown
+     (1594- 1670)             |                  +-- Govert Jans
                               |                  |
                               +-- ''Maria Covert'' --+
-                                  (1590-1650)    |
+                                  (1593-1650)    |
-                                                 +-- Unknown
+                                                 +-- Pieterje Michiels
-   Sources: <sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>
+   Sources: <sup class="reference">[W1][W2]</sup>
 =Children  =
@@ Line 71: / Line 72: @@
 {| class="wikitable"
 ! Ref. Num. !! Description !! Image of original
 |-
 !'''1'''
-|'''The Waldrons of Greene County, NY and Beyond - Family Page''', a documented family tree prepared by Ronald Allan Waldron pf Leeds NY. See: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/a/l/Ronald-A-Waldron/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0103.html
+| '''
-−
 |}
@@ Line 96: / Line 96: @@
 This tree lists 6 generations of the Waldron family, plus spouses: siblings Judith and Daniel Waldron<Joseph Waldron< Resolved Waldron < Johannes Waldron < Edward Waldron.<br>
 ''Johannes Waldron'' born 1579 in Alcester, Warwickshire, England; died 1650 at Waldron Hall, Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, netherlands ; spouse [[Maria Covert]] (1590-1650); parents [[Edward Waldron]] (1552-1619) and [[Mary Hunt]] (1560-1620); no siblings shown.<br>This site lists as its only source other Ancestry.com family trees.
 |}
 =Source Notes=
-* Source 1 -The Waldron Family of Greene County NY... lists spouses Annetje Daniels and Joseph Willemszen Waldron as half-siblings, both children of Maria Goverts (1585-after 1661) but with different fathers.  (If correct, this explains why the research on Maria Goverts has seemed to lead back on itself illogically.)
+* Source W2 -The Waldron Family of Greene County NY... lists spouses Annetje Daniels and Joseph Willemszen Waldron as half-siblings, both children of Maria Goverts (1585-after 1661) but with different fathers.  (If correct, this explains why the research on Maria Goverts has seemed to lead back on itself illogically.)   On this website, two marriages are listed for Maria Goverts, and it is unclear whether they believe there to have been two marriages, or whether they are just listing all found information on the name Maria Goverts. '''It is highly possible that two different individuals are being traced, possibly one from Amsterdam and one from Haarlem.'''

@@ Line 74: / Line 74: @@
 |-
 !'''1'''
+|
 |}
@@ Line 95: / Line 96: @@
 This tree lists 6 generations of the Waldron family, plus spouses: siblings Judith and Daniel Waldron<Joseph Waldron< Resolved Waldron < Johannes Waldron < Edward Waldron.<br>
 ''Johannes Waldron'' born 1579 in Alcester, Warwickshire, England; died 1650 at Waldron Hall, Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, netherlands ; spouse [[Maria Covert]] (1590-1650); parents [[Edward Waldron]] (1552-1619) and [[Mary Hunt]] (1560-1620); no siblings shown.<br>This site lists as its only source other Ancestry.com family trees.
 |}

@@ Line 47: / Line 47: @@
    Sources: <sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>
-=Children with [[Johannes Waldron]] =
+=Children  =
 {| class="wikitable"
 ! Name || Gender || Date of Birth || Birthplace || Spouse || Notes || Sources

← Older revision		Revision as of 23:38, 8 February 2009
Line 29:		Line 29:
	= Ancestry chart segment =		= Ancestry chart segment =

−	''Generation 13'' ''Generation 14'' ''Generation 15''	+	''Generation 13'' ''Generation 14'' ''Generation 15''

@@ Line 8: / Line 8: @@
 | style="padding-right: 4px; padding-left: 4px;"|
 ==UNDOCUMENTED ANCESTOR==
-CAUTION: THIS LINE OF RESEARCH IS UNDER REVIEW, AND WILL BE CHANGED.  There are obvious errors in the dates & information for ''Maria Covert''  which put the ancestry beyond this point in question. Note that the birth date given for Maria Covert (1590) precludes her being the parent of [[Resolved Waldron (1594)|Resolved Waldron]] (born 1594).  Her marriage date is given as 1610; this  is after the son was born. Either the dates for her are in error, or she is not the direct line ancestor.  She may be a 2nd wife of Johannes Waldron.<br>Note also that Johannes Waldron would be only 15 years old in 1594, when Resolved Waldron was born. Both of these names may be in error. This page, from undocumented sources, is being temporarily retained only as a holding point for further research.  There appears to be an effort on many websites  to connect with Edward Waldron/Walderne I, by whatever means.   Please use advisedly, with post only with appropriate disclaimers.
+CAUTION: THIS LINE OF RESEARCH IS UNDER REVIEW, AND WILL BE CHANGED.  There are obvious errors in the dates & information for ''Maria Covert''  which put the ancestry beyond this point in question. Note that the birth date given for Maria Covert (1590) precludes her being the parent of [[Resolved Waldron (1594)|Resolved Waldron]] (born 1594).  Her marriage date is given as 1610; this  is after the son was born. Either the dates for her are in error, or she is not the direct line ancestor.  She may be a 2nd wife of Johannes Waldron.<br>Note also that Johannes Waldron would be only 15 years old in 1594, when Resolved Waldron was born. Both of these names may be in error. This page, from undocumented sources, is being temporarily retained only as a holding point for further research.  There appears to be an effort on many websites  to connect with Edward Waldron/Walderne I, by whatever means.   Please use advisedly, and post only with appropriate disclaimers.
 |}

@@ Line 55: / Line 55: @@
 ! Name || Gender || Date of Birth || Birthplace || Spouse || Notes || Sources
 |-
-|  [[Resolved Waldron (1594)]]    ||M   ||1594  ||Amsterdam, N- Holland || [[Maria Goverts]] (1610-1690)    ||died 1670 at <br> Harlem NY ||<sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>
+|  [[Resolved Waldron (1594)]]    ||M   ||1594  ||Amsterdam, N- Holland || [[Maria Goverts]] (1585-????)    ||died 1670 at <br> Harlem NY ||<sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>
 |}

@@ Line 10: / Line 10: @@
 CAUTION: There are obvious errors in the dates & information for ''Maria Covert'' (born 1590)  and son [[Resolved Waldron (1594)]] (born 1594) which put their entire line of ancestry in question.  This page, from undocumented sources, is offered only as a starting point for further research.  There appears to be an effort on many websites  to connect with Edward Waldron, by whatever means. At this distance in time, some allowance is made for posting what bits of data are found, knowing they are not directly aligned.  Please use advisedly, with all necessary caveats.
 |}
 <br style="clear:both;"/>

@@ Line 4: / Line 4: @@
 ==== Native of  Holland====
+<br>
 <br style="clear:both;"/>
 <br><br>
-'''There are obvious errors in the dates & information for [[Maria Goverts]]  and [[Resolved Waldron (1594)]] which put their entire line of ancestry in question; see their pages.'''
-{{UNDOCUMENTED ANCESTRY}}
 {| class="wikitable"