Jonathan Wimer - Revision history

Liz: /* Source notes */ add note that William Wimer marred Sidney Jane Stoughton, dau. of John C. Stoughton

2011-08-20T19:33:43Z

‎Source notes: add note that William Wimer marred Sidney Jane Stoughton, dau. of John C. Stoughton

Liz: /* Children */ remove "died before 1880" for Jefferson Wimer, as death date is listed (1832)

2011-02-27T23:52:48Z

‎Children: remove "died before 1880" for Jefferson Wimer, as death date is listed (1832)

Liz: /* Sources */ add commentary note to source 6, will of Jonathan Wimer

2011-02-27T23:34:37Z

‎Sources: add commentary note to source 6, will of Jonathan Wimer

Liz: /* Sources */ foramt correction

2011-02-27T23:14:17Z

‎Sources: foramt correction

Mouser: Switched to a template system for web sources

2009-07-23T14:09:02Z

Switched to a template system for web sources

Liz: source The Wimer Family by Myers; source # attribution; spouses dates & no. of children, from source W1

2009-02-16T12:33:51Z

source The Wimer Family by Myers; source # attribution; spouses dates & no. of children, from source W1

Liz: Web source: Dougherty Family Tree, dau Ellenor

2009-02-16T11:59:42Z

Web source: Dougherty Family Tree, dau Ellenor

Liz: /* Children */ add source ref #9 for Daniel Wimer

2008-05-26T15:29:44Z

‎Children: add source ref #9 for Daniel Wimer

Liz: Civil War records of Daniel N, Daniel M and Daniel H. Wimer from ancestry.com

2008-05-26T15:28:48Z

Civil War records of Daniel N, Daniel M and Daniel H. Wimer from ancestry.com

Liz: add "see sourcenotes" to child Peter Wimer

2008-05-15T11:28:56Z

add "see sourcenotes" to child Peter Wimer

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 * Earlier census are available, but shed no particular light on the family.
 * This branch of the Wimer family connects to the Wilson family, 4 generations later.  Peter Wimer (31 May 1841-30 Dec 1919) married (29 Sept 1859) to Eleanor Fisher (19 Jan 1843 - 24 May 1918); their son Ford Wimer (4 Dec 1885 - 7 Aug 1971) married A. Gertrude Leise (9 Nov 1892 - 4 June 1966); their son Charles W. Wimer (b. 18 May 1910) married [[Bernice Evelyn Wilson]], daughter of [[James Garfield Wilson]] and [[Lorena Bernice Mayer]]. <br>from p. 34 & 47 of ''The Wimer Family'' by Paul W. Myers.
 =Conjecture=
 * Daniel Wimer, discussed by Norman C. Miller Jr., does not appear in the various census as living with the Jonathan Wimer family. <br>  However, living two houses away from Jonathan's family in 1850 is a  Mary Wimer, age 65, apparently a widow, with children Thomas 30, Adam 25, Margaret 20, Mary 15, and Daniel 14.  It is possible that all the children are hers (she would be 51 when Daniel was born), but also possible that some of the younger children (Margaret, Mary, Daniel) are staying with her, children of Jonathan and Ann Wimer.  There isn't a Mary in the list of Jon & Ann's children, but their daughter Sophia was obviously named for her grandmother, Mary Sophia Snyder, and could have had the name Mary .  Margaret was born in 1831, Sophia in 1833, and Daniel 1836 or earlier.  The children living with Mary Wimer in 1850 are a decent match, age-wise.  It is possible Jonathan sent his 3 oldest children to help out with Mary Wimer's farm after her husband died. (Note: Margaret and Sophia are present in Jonathan's house in the 1850 census, but Daniel is not.) The question is, who is Mary Wimer?  Probably the wife of a cousin of Jonathan Wimer's, or even an aunt, the wife of a brother of Christopher Wimer.  Two houses on past Mary Wimer lived John Wimer, brother of Jonathan Wimer.   So, whoever Mary Wimer is, she seems intimately related to John and Jon Wimer, and it is easily possible that the 14 year old Daniel at her house could be the missing son of Jonathan.

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 |Catharine Ann Wimer || F || 8 Sept. 1844 || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||2nd wife of Isaac Fisher (1837-1913), widower of sister Hannah Wimer;<br>11 Fisher children.<sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>|| || <sup class="reference">[1][2][6][10][W1]</sup>
 |-
-|Jefferson Wimer || M || 25 Aug. 1846<br>d. before 1880 || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||Susannah Stickle ;<br>6 Wimer children.<sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>||died 1 Aug 1832|| <sup class="reference">[1][2][3][4][6][10][W1]</sup>
+|Jefferson Wimer || M || 25 Aug. 1846  || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||Susannah Stickle ;<br>6 Wimer children.<sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>||died 1 Aug 1832|| <sup class="reference">[1][2][3][4][6][10][W1]</sup>
 |-28 Fe
 |Jonathan H. Wimer || M || 27 May 1853 || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||Margaret R. Wigton (1857-1926):<br> 1 Wimer child.<sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>|| || <sup class="reference">[2][3][4][6][10][W1]</sup>

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 ! '''6'''
 | '''Will of Jonathan Wimer'''as transcribed by Paul W. Myers in ''The Wimer Family'', p. 35.  Lists "wife"; sons Jefferson & Peter;  daughter-in-law Margaret, widow of my son Jonathan H."; daughters Margaret Jane, Sophia,Rebecca, Catharine Ann; three grandchildren (unnamed), children of daughter Hannah. Signed 8 June 1880.(Willbook source not listed; presume Butler County PA).<br>
-From correspondence of Norman C. Miller, Jr., 1988: "Jonathan's will does not name Daniel...he did identify a dau.-in-law Margaret Jane (widow of Jonathan H.) and a dau-in-law Margaret worded to indicate a different one.  This could only be Daniel's wife (or ex-wife). I know his parents held Daniel responsible for William's death[Civil War] - which could have been reason enough to have disinherited him."
+From correspondence of Norman C. Miller, Jr., 1988: "Jonathan's will does not name Daniel...he did identify a dau.-in-law Margaret Jane (widow of Jonathan H.) and a daughter-in-law Margaret  worded to indicate a different one.  This could only be Daniel's wife (or ex-wife). I know his parents held Daniel responsible for William's death[Civil War] - which could have been reason enough to have disinherited him."<br>Note: We have not seen a copy of the original script form of the will.  Either Norman C. Miller or Paul J. Myers has miss-read it with regard to the two Margarets, daughter & daughter-in-law, as to which was Margaret Jane.  We see no wording indicating a 2nd daughter-in-law in the transcription of Paul J. Myers.
 |[[Will of Jonathan Wimer|(Complete transcription)]]
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 |'''Correspondence of  Norman C. Miller, Jr.''' with Elizabeth Wilson Williams, 1988. (See Contributors page.)<br> "Jonathan Wimer's first born son was Daniel, born circa 1836 (or 1832...or 1838) and middle initial was N (or M or W.) I know Myers (ie. Paul W. Myers in "The Wimer Family") does not list him as a son, but he was.  My grandmother Miller said her Uncle Daniel was the black sheep of the family...she said he was one of her favorite uncles and she gave me a small pocket photo album that Daniel carried during the Civil War.  Inside the fly leaf Daniel wrote his name as Daniel N. along with his unit - Battery B, 1st Pa. Artillery.  Daniel enlisted in Bat'ry B. in Aug of 1864 serving until discharged in June '65."<br>Miller gives further  military records of Daniel N Wimer, Daniel M Wimer/Wymer, (indicating birth years 1836, or 1838)and brother William Wimer; and a grave for Daniel W. Weimer (calculated birth year 1832)with marker for Co. G. 134th PA Vols. at Zion Baptist Cemetery in Worth Co., where Daniel's father Jonathan Wimer is also buried.<br> Note: Regarding the middle initial, see source #8, death notices.
 |[[Daniel Wimer in Correspondence of Norman C. Miller, Jr.|Click here for complete Miller correspondence re. Daniel Wimer]]
 |-
 !'''8'''
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 * Earlier census are available, but shed no particular light on the family.
 * This branch of the Wimer family connects to the Wilson family, 4 generations later.  Peter Wimer (31 May 1841-30 Dec 1919) married (29 Sept 1859) to Eleanor Fisher (19 Jan 1843 - 24 May 1918); their son Ford Wimer (4 Dec 1885 - 7 Aug 1971) married A. Gertrude Leise (9 Nov 1892 - 4 June 1966); their son Charles W. Wimer (b. 18 May 1910) married [[Bernice Evelyn Wilson]], daughter of [[James Garfield Wilson]] and [[Lorena Bernice Mayer]]. <br>from p. 34 & 47 of ''The Wimer Family'' by Paul W. Myers.
 =Conjecture=
 * Daniel Wimer, discussed by Norman C. Miller Jr., does not appear in the various census as living with the Jonathan Wimer family. <br>  However, living two houses away from Jonathan's family in 1850 is a  Mary Wimer, age 65, apparently a widow, with children Thomas 30, Adam 25, Margaret 20, Mary 15, and Daniel 14.  It is possible that all the children are hers (she would be 51 when Daniel was born), but also possible that some of the younger children (Margaret, Mary, Daniel) are staying with her, children of Jonathan and Ann Wimer.  There isn't a Mary in the list of Jon & Ann's children, but their daughter Sophia was obviously named for her grandmother, Mary Sophia Snyder, and could have had the name Mary .  Margaret was born in 1831, Sophia in 1833, and Daniel 1836 or earlier.  The children living with Mary Wimer in 1850 are a decent match, age-wise.  It is possible Jonathan sent his 3 oldest children to help out with Mary Wimer's farm after her husband died. (Note: Margaret and Sophia are present in Jonathan's house in the 1850 census, but Daniel is not.) The question is, who is Mary Wimer?  Probably the wife of a cousin of Jonathan Wimer's, or even an aunt, the wife of a brother of Christopher Wimer.  Two houses on past Mary Wimer lived John Wimer, brother of Jonathan Wimer.   So, whoever Mary Wimer is, she seems intimately related to John and Jon Wimer, and it is easily possible that the 14 year old Daniel at her house could be the missing son of Jonathan.

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 ! Name || Gender || Date of Birth || Birthplace || Spouse || Notes || Sources
 |-
-| Margaret Jane Wimer ||F || 4 Aug.  1831||Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA  ||married to unknown  |||| <sup class="reference">[1][6][W1]</sup>
+| Margaret Jane Wimer ||F || 4 Aug.  1831||Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA  ||married 13 Mar 1857<sup class="reference">[10]</sup>  <br>to Henry Smyth (1822-1906); <br>9 Smyth children<sup class="reference">[W1]</sup> |||| <sup class="reference">[1][6][10][W1]</sup>
 |-
 | Daniel N/M Wimer ||M || 1832 or 1836 or 1838   ||Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA  ||possibly Margaret unknown   || died 1904   ||<sup class="reference">[1][7][8][9]</sup>
 |-
-| Sophia Wimer|| F||3 Jan. 1833|| Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||James Harvey Cooper || || <sup class="reference">[1][6][W1]</sup>
+| Sophia Wimer|| F||3 Jan. 1833|| Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||m. 21 Oct 1852<br>to James Harvey Cooper (1829-1910);<br>7 Cooper children.<sup class="reference">[W1]</sup> || || <sup class="reference">[1][6][W1]</sup>
 |-
-| Rebecca Wimer || F || 3 Sept. 1834 ||Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA  || James Jones || || <sup class="reference">[1][6][W1]</sup>
+| Rebecca Wimer || F || 3 Sept. 1834 ||Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA  || m. 1855 to <br>James Jones (1830-1908);<br>9 Jones children.<sup class="reference">[W1]</sup> || || <sup class="reference">[1][6][10][W1]</sup>
 |-
-|Hannah Wimer ||F || 13 Sept. 1836 ||Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA  ||Isaac Fisher; Hannah died 1861 || || <sup class="reference">[1][6][W1]</sup>
+|Hannah Wimer ||F || 13 Sept. 1836 ||Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA  ||m. 1856 to Isaac Fisher (1837-1913);<br>3 Fisher children; Hannah died 1861 <sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>|| || <sup class="reference">[1][6][10][W1]</sup>
 |-
-|John Wimer || M || 28 Feb. 1839 || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||possibly never married || || <sup class="reference">[5][W1]</sup>
+|John Wimer || M || 28 Feb. 1839 || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||died young ||died 24 July 1839 || <sup class="reference">[5][10][W1]</sup>
 |-
-|Peter Wimer || M || 31 May 1840 || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||Eleanor Fisher ||See source notes, below || <sup class="reference">[1][2][6][W1]</sup>
+|Peter Wimer || M || 31 May 1840 || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||m.29 Sept 1859 to<br>Eleanor Fisher (1843-1918);<br>11 Wimer children.<sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>||See source notes, below || <sup class="reference">[1][2][6][10][W1]</sup>
 |-
 |Ellenor Wimer || F ||   1841 || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||   || || <sup class="reference"> [W1]</sup>
 |-
-|William Wimer || M || 10 Sept. 1842 || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA || Civil War Vet; died at home, of war injuries 1863 || || <sup class="reference">[1][2][W1]</sup>
+|William Wimer || M || 10 Sept. 1842 || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||  ||Civil War Vet; died at home of war injuries, 4 Mar 1863 || <sup class="reference">[1][2][10][W1]</sup>
 |-
-|Catharine Ann Wimer || F || 8 Sept. 1844 || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||2nd wife of Isaac Fisher, widower of  Hannah Wimer|| || <sup class="reference">[1][2][6][W1]</sup>
+|Catharine Ann Wimer || F || 8 Sept. 1844 || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||2nd wife of Isaac Fisher (1837-1913), widower of sister Hannah Wimer;<br>11 Fisher children.<sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>|| || <sup class="reference">[1][2][6][10][W1]</sup>
 |-
-|Jefferson Wimer || M || 25 Aug. 1846<br>d. before 1880 || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||Susannah Stickle || || <sup class="reference">[1][2][3][4][6][W1]</sup>
+|Jefferson Wimer || M || 25 Aug. 1846<br>d. before 1880 || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||Susannah Stickle ;<br>6 Wimer children.<sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>||died 1 Aug 1832|| <sup class="reference">[1][2][3][4][6][10][W1]</sup>
 |-28 Fe
-|Jonathan H. Wimer || M || 27 May 1853 || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||Margaret R. Wigton || || <sup class="reference">[2][3][4][6][W1]</sup>
+|Jonathan H. Wimer || M || 27 May 1853 || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||Margaret R. Wigton (1857-1926):<br> 1 Wimer child.<sup class="reference">[W1]</sup>|| || <sup class="reference">[2][3][4][6][10][W1]</sup>
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 * Daniel M Wimer/Wymer, private 134th Regiment PA Infantry, Company G.  Film #M 554, roll 133.
 * Daniel H. Wimer/Weimer, private 171st Pa Infantry, Company K.  Film #M 554 roll 133.
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-! '''10'''
+! '''11'''
 | '''Personal correspondence''' from [[Elizabeth Ann Wilson|Elizabeth Wilson Williams]]]
 | <div width="*" style="text-align: center">'''N/A'''</div>

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 | Margaret Jane Wimer ||F || 4 Aug.  1831||Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA  ||married to unknown  |||| <sup class="reference">[1][6]</sup>
 |-
-| Daniel N/M Wimer ||M || 1832 or 1836 or 1838   ||Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA  ||possibly Margaret unknown   || died 1904   ||<sup class="reference">[1][7][8]</sup>
+| Daniel N/M Wimer ||M || 1832 or 1836 or 1838   ||Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA  ||possibly Margaret unknown   || died 1904   ||<sup class="reference">[1][7][8][9]</sup>
 |-
 | Sophia Wimer|| F||3 Jan. 1833|| Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||James Harvey Cooper || || <sup class="reference">[1][6]</sup>

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 * Butler Eagle, Thurs. 17 Nov 1904, p.8, col.3. "D.N.Weimer, a former Butler county resident, died last night in Mercer county and the remains were brought to Butler this morning, to 217 West D street, where the funeral services will be held tomorrow.  the interment will be in the Worth township cemetery.  He was 72 years of age and died from the ills peculiar to age.
 <br>Note:  ''Daniel M. Wimer and Daniel N. Weimer are obviously the same person. ''
 |-
-! '''9'''
+! '''10'''
 | '''Personal correspondence''' from [[Elizabeth Ann Wilson|Elizabeth Wilson Williams]]]
 | <div width="*" style="text-align: center">'''N/A'''</div>

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 |John Wimer || M || 28 Feb. 1839 || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||possibly never married || || <sup class="reference">[5]</sup>
 |-
-|Peter Wimer || M || 31 May 1840 || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||Eleanor Fisher || || <sup class="reference">[1][2][6]</sup>
+|Peter Wimer || M || 31 May 1840 || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA ||Eleanor Fisher ||See source notes, below || <sup class="reference">[1][2][6]</sup>
 |-
 |William Wimer || M || 10 Sept. 1842 || Worth Twp., Butler Co., PA || Civil War Vet; died at home, of war injuries 1863 || || <sup class="reference">[1][2]</sup>