Johannes Peter Klein - Revision history

Liz: /* Conjecture */ change wording re. Jacob & Elisabetha, sponsors for Eliz. Fenstermacher.

2007-12-12T06:12:41Z

‎Conjecture: change wording re. Jacob & Elisabetha, sponsors for Eliz. Fenstermacher.

Liz: /* Sources */ change wording of 1790 census extract. Change wording in source 7 re baptismal sponsors - too young to be Elizabeth Vogele

2007-12-12T05:44:13Z

‎Sources: change wording of 1790 census extract. Change wording in source 7 re baptismal sponsors - too young to be Elizabeth Vogele

Liz: add research section with John Heinly & Helena Kline Heinly

2007-11-23T20:49:34Z

add research section with John Heinly & Helena Kline Heinly

Liz: /* Source Notes */ spelling

2007-11-23T20:40:20Z

‎Source Notes: spelling

Liz: formatting conjecture section

2007-11-23T20:38:21Z

formatting conjecture section

Liz: "possibly" 2nd wife of Nichoolas;move note on sponsors of Susanna Klein to pate of Joh. Jacob Klein

2007-11-23T20:29:34Z

"possibly" 2nd wife of Nichoolas;move note on sponsors of Susanna Klein to pate of Joh. Jacob Klein

Liz: page links in source 7

2007-11-20T16:42:28Z

page links in source 7

Liz: separate the flag & boat icons

2007-11-19T12:05:40Z

separate the flag & boat icons

Liz: /* Source Notes */ spacing

2007-11-19T11:56:12Z

‎Source Notes: spacing

Liz: /* Source Notes */ Identity of Jacob Truckenmiller, named in Ltrs. of Admin.

2007-11-19T11:55:13Z

‎Source Notes: Identity of Jacob Truckenmiller, named in Ltrs. of Admin.

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 ===Conjecture===
 <br>The following couples are linked in the records to the Johannes Peter Klein family, and the wife in each case may be a Klein daughter. We have however no record that specifically names them as such, and they are not named in the will of Catherine Klein. They may be nieces rather than daughters.
-* Maria Margretha possibly a child of Johannes Peter & Catharine Klein, and a sister of Jacob Klein: <br>* [[Johan Jacob Klein|Jacob]] & [[Elizabetha Vogele|Elisabetha Klein]] appear as baptismal sponsors of Elisabeth Fenstermacher, b. 1788 to Joseph & Maria Margretha Fenstermacher.(See [[Longswamp Reformed Church Records]])
+* Maria Margretha possibly a child of Johannes Peter & Catharine Klein, and a sister of Jacob Klein: <br>* Jacob & Elisabetha Klein appear as baptismal sponsors of Elisabeth Fenstermacher, b. 1788 to Joseph & Maria Margretha Fenstermacher. These sponsors were initially thought to be [[Johan Jacob Klein]] &  wife [[Elizabetha Vogele]]; however, Elizabetha Vogele was born in 1775, so not old enough to be married in 1788.  Identity of sponsors not established.  (See [[Longswamp Reformed Church Records]])
 * Catharine, wife of John Heinly may be a daughter, or sister, of Johannes Klein; see Source Notes above on the Heinly family of Macungie Twp.  Johannes Hainle & Catharina were sponsors of Johannes Klein b. 1774 to Johannes Klein & Catharina.  See  [[Records of Lehigh Church/Zion's Lutheran Church]].
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-| '''1790 United States Federal Census''', Macunge Twp, Northampton Co, PA, pg 3.  Census is not dated.  Family headed by John Klyn: 3 males >16, 1 female.  This is consisten with '''Johanes Peter Klein''' and his wife and sons.  One son is missing; we know Johannes Peter Klein was married by this date (son Jacob b. 1766).
+| '''1790 United States Federal Census''', Macunge Twp, Northampton Co, PA, pg 3.  Census is not dated.  Family headed by John Klyn: 3 males >16, 1 female.  This is consisten with '''Johanes Peter Klein''' and his wife and sons.  One son is missing; oldest son would be age 22, possibly working elsewhere.
 | [[Image:1790 census pa northampton macunge pg 3.jpg|50px|center]]
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 |'''Church Records of Longswamp Reformed Church 1748-1810''', Folder #78, Longswamp Twp. collection, Berks Co. Genealogical Society Library, Kutztown, PA. , photocopy Feb. 1995 By E W Williams.
 * "Catharina Klein, dau. of ''[[Johan Nicholas Klein|Joh. Nicolaus]] & Magdalena Klein'', born 17 Jan. 1800, baptized 24 Aug., sponsors '''Johannes & Catharina Klein'''".
-* "Elisabeth Fenstermacher", born 24 May 1788, dau. of Joseph & Maria Margretha Fenstermacher, sponsors ''[[Johan Jacob Klein|Jacob]] & [[Elizabetha Vogele|Elisabeth Klein]]''.
+* "Elisabeth Fenstermacher", born 24 May 1788, dau. of Joseph & Maria Margretha Fenstermacher, sponsors Jacob & Elisabeth Klein.  (These sponsors initially thought to be [[Johan Jacob Klein]] and wife [[Elizabetha Vogele]]; however, Elizabetha Vogele was born in 1775, so would not have been married in 1788.)
 |See additional [[Longswamp Reformed Church Records]] for Klein & other surnames
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	\| Catharine (Klein?) \|\| F \|\| \|\| \|\|John Heinly \|\| \|\| <sup class="reference">[4][7]</sup>		\| Catharine (Klein?) \|\| F \|\| \|\| \|\|John Heinly \|\| \|\| <sup class="reference">[4][7]</sup>
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		+	=Research=
		+	{{research}}
		+	* '''Fogelsville Union Cemetery, St. Johns Burials''', Lehigh Co. Hist. Soc., Allentown. p. 40. "Sec. E Row 5<br>Heinly, Father John b. 30 Mar., 1824 d. 6 Sept., 1888<br>''Heinly, Mother Helena nee Kline'' b. 26 Feb., 1825 d. 15 Dec. 1910<br> Heinly, Alice, dau. of John & Helena Heinly b. 29 May 1860 d. 27 Sept. 1876 "<br> (John Heinly was a signer/administrator of the Letters of Administration of John Klein.)
		+	See also [[Heinly Ancestors]]

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 *[[Records of Lehigh Church/Zion's Lutheran Church]]:  Baptism of the children of Johannes Klein & wife Catharine, would suggest  that he went by the name "Johannes" or "John". The will of Anna Catharine Klein, written in English, names her late husband as John Peter Klein.  This will is the only source of the middle name Peter.  Never-the-less it is felt that this John Peter & Anna Catharine Klein are the same couple as the Johannes and Catherine Klein of the church records.  Not only do the children's and grandchildren's names match, but the daughter Anna Elisabeth and husband Frances Warmkassel, mentioned in the will, are also in the church records as baptismal sponsors in 1796 for Johann J. Klein (son of Anna Elisabeth's brother Jacob Klein, and grandson of Johannes/John Peter Klein).
-* The Heinly family of Macungie Twp., Lehigh County have a close connection with the Klein family. <br>1)John Heinly was a signer/administrator of the Letters of Administration of John Klein. This John Heinly is probably the one listed in  "Heinly Ancestors" by Thomas M. Koser: John Heinly born about 1730, married to Catherine unknown, and residing near the Lehigh Church.<br>2)  John Hainly & wife Catharina also were baptismal sponsors in 1781 at the baptism of Johannes Klein, parents being Johannes Klein & wife Catharina.  <br>3) A later  John Heinly (1824-1888) is buried at Foglesville Union Cemetery, married to Helena Kline(1825-1910).  Their connection to the Heinly and Klein families is not yet known.<br> For Heinly family data, go to [[Matthias Heinly]] page. See also, John Heinly & wf. Elizabeth, 1787 sponsors for Philipps family baptism,  [[Upper Milford Reformed Congregation, now Zion's Reformed Church at Zionsville]]
+* The Heinly family of Macungie Twp., Lehigh County have a close connection with the Klein family. <br>1) John Heinly was a signer/administrator of the Letters of Administration of Johannes Klein. This John Heinly is probably the one listed in  "Heinly Ancestors" by Thomas M. Koser: John Heinly born about 1730, married to Catherine unknown, and residing near the Lehigh Church.<br>2)  John Hainly & wife Catharina also were baptismal sponsors in 1781 at the baptism of Johannes Klein, parents being Johannes Klein & wife Catharina.  <br>3) A later  John Heinly (1824-1888) is buried at Foglesville Union Cemetery, married to Helena Kline(1825-1910).  Their connection to the Heinly and Klein families is not yet known.<br> For Heinly family data, go to [[Matthias Heinly]] page. See also, John Heinly & wf. Elizabeth, 1787 sponsors for Philipps family baptism,  [[Upper Milford Reformed Congregation, now Zion's Reformed Church at Zionsville]]
 * Macungie Township was originally part of Bucks County.  Northampton Co. was created in 1752; at that time Macungie was divided into Upper Macungie, Lower Macungie , and Salisbury townships.   Families on wide-scattered farms, with no near neighbors, functioned as isolated units.  No villages of any importance existed in the early years, only gathering places such as taverns, mills, and churches. "As late as 1776 only two population centers existed in present-day Lehigh County: Allentown (officially callen Northampton, but known locally as "Allen's towne"), and Emmaus - but the latter remained closed to outsiders" (ie. non-Mennonites). The road from Macungie to Bethlehem was not built until 1760; before that people journeyed on foot using Indian paths. <br>From "Life in an Eighteenth-Century Moravian Community" by Jean Stauffer Hudson, printed in the 1978 ''Proceedings, Lehigh County Historical Society, pg.9

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 ===Conjecture===
-<br>The following couples are linked in the records to the Klein family, and the wife in each case may be a Klein daughter; we have however no record that specifically names them as such, and they are not named in the will of Catherine Klein. They may be nieces rather than daughters. Catherina Heinly may be a sister of Johannes Klein.
+<br>The following couples are linked in the records to the Johannes Peter Klein family, and the wife in each case may be a Klein daughter. We have however no record that specifically names them as such, and they are not named in the will of Catherine Klein. They may be nieces rather than daughters.
 * Maria Margretha possibly a child of Johannes Peter & Catharine Klein, and a sister of Jacob Klein: <br>* [[Johan Jacob Klein|Jacob]] & [[Elizabetha Vogele|Elisabetha Klein]] appear as baptismal sponsors of Elisabeth Fenstermacher, b. 1788 to Joseph & Maria Margretha Fenstermacher.(See [[Longswamp Reformed Church Records]])
-* Catharine, wife of John Heinly may be a daughter, or sister, of Johannes Klein; see Source Notes above on the Heinly family of Macungie Twp.
+* Catharine, wife of John Heinly may be a daughter, or sister, of Johannes Klein; see Source Notes above on the Heinly family of Macungie Twp.  Johannes Hainle & Catharina were sponsors of Johannes Klein b. 1774 to Johannes Klein & Catharina.  See  [[Records of Lehigh Church/Zion's Lutheran Church]].
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 ! Name || Gender || Date of Birth || Birthplace || Spouse || Notes || Sources

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 | Anna Catharina  Klein       ||F || ||  || John Moser   ||A.Catherina died before the <br>will of 1818;she had children.  ||  <sup class="reference">[3]</sup>
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-|[[Johan Nicholas Klein]]     || M ||5 Mar. 1772 ||Macungie Twp. Lehigh Co. PA ||1st) Magdalena Unknown<br>2nd)Maria Unknown     || || <sup class="reference">[3][4][6][7]</sup>
+|[[Johan Nicholas Klein]]     || M ||5 Mar. 1772 ||Macungie Twp. Lehigh Co. PA ||1st) Magdalena Unknown<br>possibly 2nd)Maria Unknown     || || <sup class="reference">[3][4][6][7]</sup>
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 |Johannes Klein   || M ||15 Aug. 1774 ||Macungie Twp. Lehigh Co. PA   ||   ||Not in Ltrs. of Admin.(1808),<br> or will of 1818 .<br> Possibly died young.   || <sup class="reference">[6]</sup>
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 ===Conjecture===
 <br>The following couples are linked in the records to the Klein family, and the wife in each case may be a Klein daughter; we have however no record that specifically names them as such, and they are not named in the will of Catherine Klein. They may be nieces rather than daughters. Catherina Heinly may be a sister of Johannes Klein.
-* Maria Margretha possibly a child of Johannes Peter & Catharine Klein, and a sister of Jacob Klein; [[Johan Jacob Klein|Jacob]] & [[Elizabetha Vogele|Elisabetha Klein]] appear as baptismal sponsors of Elisabeth Fenstermacher, b. 1788 to Joseph & Maria Margretha Fenstermacher.(See [[Longswamp Reformed Church Records]])
+* Maria Margretha possibly a child of Johannes Peter & Catharine Klein, and a sister of Jacob Klein: <br>* [[Johan Jacob Klein|Jacob]] & [[Elizabetha Vogele|Elisabetha Klein]] appear as baptismal sponsors of Elisabeth Fenstermacher, b. 1788 to Joseph & Maria Margretha Fenstermacher.(See [[Longswamp Reformed Church Records]])
-<br>*Susanna Klein  b. Apr. 27, 1798, bapt. June 24, 1798, parents  [[Johan Jacob Klein|Jacob Klein]]  &  [[Elizabetha Vogele|Elisabetha]] ;sponsors ''Jacob Druckemiller & Anna Maria''.
 * Catharine, wife of John Heinly may be a daughter, or sister, of Johannes Klein; see Source Notes above on the Heinly family of Macungie Twp.
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 ===Source Notes===
 * Jacob Truckenmiller, named in the Letters of Admin. for John Klein (Johannes Peter Klein), is husband to Anna Maria Vogele (see Longswamp Church Records).  Jacob Truckenmiller would be a brother-in-law of John Klein's son, Johan Jacob Klein, who married Elisabeth Vogele.  Thus, he (Jacob Truckenmiller) was chosen to participate in administering the estate, not by the deceased, but by his son Johan Jacob Klein who was one of the administrators.
 * [[Longswamp Reformed Church Records]]: This church is situated  in Berks Co. PA,( about 5 miles from the Zion's Lutheran Church  in Lehigh Co. PA where [[Johannes Peter Klein|Johannes]] & Catharina Klein were members). <br>Maria Margretha, wife of Joseph Fenstermacher could possibly be a sister of [[Johan Jacob Klein]]; Johan Jacob's parents appear to be the sponsors of the Fenstermacher child.
 *[[Records of Lehigh Church/Zion's Lutheran Church]]:  Baptism of the children of Johannes Klein & wife Catharine, would suggest  that he went by the name "Johannes" or "John". The will of Anna Catharine Klein, written in English, names her late husband as John Peter Klein.  This will is the only source of the middle name Peter.  Never-the-less it is felt that this John Peter & Anna Catharine Klein are the same couple as the Johannes and Catherine Klein of the church records.  Not only do the children's and grandchildren's names match, but the daughter Anna Elisabeth and husband Frances Warmkassel, mentioned in the will, are also in the church records as baptismal sponsors in 1796 for Johann J. Klein (son of Anna Elisabeth's brother Jacob Klein, and grandson of Johannes/John Peter Klein).

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		+	* Jacob Truckenmiller, named in the Letters of Admin. for John Klein (Johannes Peter Klein), is husband to Anna Maria Vogele (see Longswamp Church Records). Jacob Truckenmiller would be a brother-in-law of John Klein's son, Johan Jacob Klein, who married Elisabeth Vogele. Thus, he (Jacob Truckenmiller) was chosen to participate in administering the estate, not by the deceased, but by his son Johan Jacob Klein who was one of the administrators.
	* [[Longswamp Reformed Church Records]]: This church is situated in Berks Co. PA,( about 5 miles from the Zion's Lutheran Church in Lehigh Co. PA where [[Johannes Peter Klein\|Johannes]] & Catharina Klein were members). <br>Maria Margretha, wife of Joseph Fenstermacher could possibly be a sister of [[Johan Jacob Klein]]; Johan Jacob's parents appear to be the sponsors of the Fenstermacher child.		* [[Longswamp Reformed Church Records]]: This church is situated in Berks Co. PA,( about 5 miles from the Zion's Lutheran Church in Lehigh Co. PA where [[Johannes Peter Klein\|Johannes]] & Catharina Klein were members). <br>Maria Margretha, wife of Joseph Fenstermacher could possibly be a sister of [[Johan Jacob Klein]]; Johan Jacob's parents appear to be the sponsors of the Fenstermacher child.