Johan Christian Schnaeder - Revision history

Mouser: /* Swiss Immigrant, 1729 */ Added burial to life events list.

2013-07-07T20:52:24Z

‎Swiss Immigrant, 1729: Added burial to life events list.

Mouser: /* Research Wishlist */ Removed section; only item on list found.

2013-07-07T20:50:57Z

‎Research Wishlist: Removed section; only item on list found.

Mouser: /* Sources */ Added gravestone source.

2013-07-07T20:50:30Z

‎Sources: Added gravestone source.

Mouser: /* Research Wishlist */ added note about extant gravestone photo

2013-06-20T21:40:47Z

‎Research Wishlist: added note about extant gravestone photo

Mouser: /* Sources */ Added image of first page of lancaster source.

2012-03-05T21:19:04Z

‎Sources: Added image of first page of lancaster source.

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Mouser: /* Sources */ Added 1948 SAR application which mentions JCS, his wife, and his son.

2012-03-05T06:52:05Z

‎Sources: Added 1948 SAR application which mentions JCS, his wife, and his son.

Liz: /* Sources */ Schnader line traced in Annals of Lancaster Co., added to source 13

2009-02-16T15:22:19Z

‎Sources: Schnader line traced in Annals of Lancaster Co., added to source 13

Liz: source # attributions for Michael Schnader

2009-02-16T15:15:38Z

source # attributions for Michael Schnader

Liz: "Swiss immigrant, 1729"

2009-02-16T14:59:51Z

"Swiss immigrant, 1729"

Liz: source 13: biogr annals of Lancaster Co; page link for full text; remove source note questioning Swiss origin source; remove Weaver s from research wishlist

2009-02-16T14:57:08Z

source 13: biogr annals of Lancaster Co; page link for full text; remove source note questioning Swiss origin source; remove Weaver s from research wishlist

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 | '''Marriage''' || ~1727||Germany || To [[Susanna Margaretha Ranck]] || <sup class="reference">[1][6]</sup>
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-| '''Death''' || ~1793||New Holland, Lancaster Co., PA ||  || <sup class="reference">[1]</sup>
+| '''Death''' || 1793 ||New Holland, Lancaster Co., PA ||  || <sup class="reference">[1][15]</sup>
 |}
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 =Conjecture=
 *The "Allen" ship's list of passengers includes Christian and Susan Schneider, presumed to be Johan Christian Schnaeder and wife Susanna Margaretha Ranck. If so, their infant daughter Margaretha, born in Switzerland, would be about 4 months old at sailing; she is not included on the passenger list.  In addition to them, two more Schneiders are listed, Mathew, and Magdalene.
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-=Research Wishlist=
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-* There is a gravestone photo on findagrave now; don't have time at the moment to import the data here.   Memorial #42579091.

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	\|'''Application for Membership in the National Society Sons of the American Revolution''', 1948, for applicant [[Willard S. Fenstermacher]].<br> As per SAR membership rules, applicants must demonstrate direct male lineage to a person who served in some fashion in the revolutionary war. Mr. Fenstermacher gives his direct ancestry through [[Johan Christian Schnaeder]] and [[Susanna Margaretha Ranck]]. Their son, [[Michael Sneder]], is listed has having been a Private, 3rd Class, 1st Company, 5th Battalion, Lancaster County [PA] Militia. Mr. Fenstermacher indicates that this information along with the data concerning his ancestry is contained in the Pennsylvania Archives, Fifth Series, Vol. VII, Page 497-515-992. He also indicates that the name Sneder is sometimes spelled Schneder, Snader, Schneider.		\|'''Application for Membership in the National Society Sons of the American Revolution''', 1948, for applicant [[Willard S. Fenstermacher]].<br> As per SAR membership rules, applicants must demonstrate direct male lineage to a person who served in some fashion in the revolutionary war. Mr. Fenstermacher gives his direct ancestry through [[Johan Christian Schnaeder]] and [[Susanna Margaretha Ranck]]. Their son, [[Michael Sneder]], is listed has having been a Private, 3rd Class, 1st Company, 5th Battalion, Lancaster County [PA] Militia. Mr. Fenstermacher indicates that this information along with the data concerning his ancestry is contained in the Pennsylvania Archives, Fifth Series, Vol. VII, Page 497-515-992. He also indicates that the name Sneder is sometimes spelled Schneder, Snader, Schneider.
	\|[[Image:Johan-christian-schnaeder-SAR-app1.jpg\|50px\|center]][[Image:Johan-christian-schnaeder-SAR-app2.jpg\|50px\|center]][[Image:Johan-christian-schnaeder-SAR-app3.jpg\|50px\|center]]		\|[[Image:Johan-christian-schnaeder-SAR-app1.jpg\|50px\|center]][[Image:Johan-christian-schnaeder-SAR-app2.jpg\|50px\|center]][[Image:Johan-christian-schnaeder-SAR-app3.jpg\|50px\|center]]
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		+	!'''15'''
		+	\|'''Gravestone''' at Saint Stephen United Church of Christ Cemetery, New Holland, Lancaster Co., PA. The inscription reads, "Sacred to the memory of [[Johan Christian Schnaeder\|JOHN CHRISTIAN SCHNEIDER]] 1707-1793 - [[Susanna Margaretha Ranck\|SUSANNA MARGRETA]], HIS WIFE 1797-1767 - Pioneers of [illegible] family buried in this lot. Supposed to be buried at Zeltenreich's cemetery."
		+	\|[[File:Gravestone-johan-christian-schnaeder.jpg\|50px\|center]]

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		+	* There is a gravestone photo on findagrave now; don't have time at the moment to import the data here. Memorial #42579091.

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 Weber, Henry Weber and Jacob Weber, Swiss Memonites, had settled a few years earlier...<br>This source primarily follows the line of descent: Christian Schnaeder> Michael Schneider, 4th son of Christian>Christian Schneder, eldest son of Michael>Christian Schneder>Isaac Schneder
 |[[Biographical Annals of Lancaster County PA, Schneider Biography|See full text]]
 |}

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 | [[Johann Phillip Scneder]] || M || 15 Feb 1741 || New Holland, Lancaster Co. PA  || [[Dorothy Miller|Dorothy Mueller/Miller]] ||Direct Line<br>d.ed <1800 || <sup class="reference">[3]</sup>
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-|  Johann Michael Schnader  || M || 9 May 1745 ||New Holland, Lancaster Co., PA ||Eleanora Mueller  ||d. 2 Sept 1831, New Holland || <sup class="reference"></sup>
+|  Johann Michael Schnader  || M || 9 May 1745 ||New Holland, Lancaster Co., PA ||Eleanora Mueller  ||d. 2 Sept 1831, New Holland || <sup class="reference">[1][13]</sup>
 |}

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 __NOTOC__
 [[Image:flag_switzerland.png|left]]<br style="clear:both;"/>[[Image:Immigrant boat.JPG|70px|left]]
-=====Immigrant, 1729 =====
+=====Swiss Immigrant, 1729 =====
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 !  || Date || Location || Notes || Sources
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-| '''Birth'''  || ~1707||Kirchdorf, Argau, Switzerland (?)<br>Palatine area on Swiss/German border ||  || <sup class="reference">[10][11]</sup>
+| '''Birth'''  || ~1707||Kirchdorf, Argau, Switzerland <br>Palatine area on Swiss/German border ||  || <sup class="reference">[10][11][13]</sup>
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 | '''Marriage''' || ~1727||Germany || To [[Susanna Margaretha Ranck]] || <sup class="reference">[1][6]</sup>
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 | '''Death''' || ~1793||New Holland, Lancaster Co., PA ||  || <sup class="reference">[1]</sup>
 |}
-b.abt.1707 in Kirchdorf, Argau, Switzerland(?) in the "Palatine" area on the Swiss/German border.
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 ! Location || Dates || Notes || Sources
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-|Switzerland||~1707|| || <sup class="reference">[1]</sup>
+|Switzerland||~1707|| || <sup class="reference">[1][13]</sup>
 |-
 |Thierachenern, Bern Switzerland||by 1728/29|| ||<sup class="reference">[1][11]</sup>
 |-
-| Weaverland, East Earl Twp.,Lancaster Co. PA||1729|| || <sup class="reference">[9][11]</sup>
+| Weaverland, East Earl Twp.,Lancaster Co. PA||1729|| || <sup class="reference">[9][11][13]</sup>
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 | near (present-day) Terre Hill, East Earl Twp.,Lancaster Co. PA||1733|| || <sup class="reference">[9]</sup>
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 * N.B. the Ship cleared from Cows in the Isle of Wight. "At the Courthouse of Philadelphia, September 15th, 1729...A List was presented of the names of Fifty nine Palatines, who with their Families, making in all about One hundred & twenty six Persons, were imported in the Ship Allen, James Craigie, Master, from Rotterdam, but last from Cows, as by Clearance thence dated 7th of July last." From the ''Minutes of the Provincial Council, printed in Colonial Records, Vol. III, pg. 368.''
 * '''List B, Signers of the oath of allegiance to England''', dated 15 Sept 1729, included:  ''Christian Schneider, Mattdes Schneider''; (''Jacob Schneider'' does not appear on the list, but there is a name transcribed as Jacob Heider.  No Jacob Heider appears on List A.  It is possible that Jacob's script signature has been miss-transcribed from List B. )<br>See:  http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/7010/shiplists_pa1729.html#ALLEN
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 |}
 ===Source notes===
 * Several of our sources seem to go back to the work of J. Allan Skiles.
-* The references to Switzerland  as place of origin may go back to the writing of Charles D. Spotts on the history of Bowmansville (Ref. 11).  Switzerland appears to be a best guess, the Schnaders being from the border area of Baden & Wurtemburg.  Spotts says that the Schnaders were following their friends the Webers, to Weaverland. Perhaps there was some knowledge that the Weber family were Swiss.  Apparently (from Source #11) Weaverland was initially called "Weberthal", after the Weber family; this too may be the source of the assumption of Swiss origins. This bears further research.
 * Weaverland appears to be a small community near the boundary of Earl and East Earl townships, on the south side of the Conestoga River, Lancaster Co. PA.  Terre Hill is nearby, north of the Conestoga River and nearer to Black Creek in East Earl Twp.
 =Conjecture=
-*The "Allen" ship's list of passengers includes Christian and Susan Schneider, presumed to be Johan Christian Schnaeder and wife Susanna Margaretha Ranck. If so, their infant daughter Margaretha, born in Switzerland, would be about 4 months old at sailing; she is not included on the passenger list.  In addition to them, two more Schneiders are listed, Mathew, and Magdalene.  Mathew may be a brother or other relative of  Christian, with Magdalene possibly his wife.
+*The "Allen" ship's list of passengers includes Christian and Susan Schneider, presumed to be Johan Christian Schnaeder and wife Susanna Margaretha Ranck. If so, their infant daughter Margaretha, born in Switzerland, would be about 4 months old at sailing; she is not included on the passenger list.  In addition to them, two more Schneiders are listed, Mathew, and Magdalene.
 =Research Wishlist=