James Irvin Hogue - Revision history

Liz: "allowances" to source 23.

2015-09-17T19:59:00Z

"allowances" to source 23.

Liz: further translation of source 23 - PA land warrant

2015-09-17T19:57:18Z

further translation of source 23 - PA land warrant

Mouser: /* Sources */ Added land warrant source

2015-09-10T03:13:17Z

‎Sources: Added land warrant source

Liz: add link to Hogg/Hoge/Hogue research page

2010-08-12T12:43:17Z

add link to Hogg/Hoge/Hogue research page

Mouser: Switched to a template system for web sources

2009-07-23T13:42:04Z

Switched to a template system for web sources

Liz: page complete template (indexed)

2009-07-23T04:41:28Z

page complete template (indexed)

Liz: /* Conjecture */ 4 Hogue gravestones at West Liberty, relationship unknown

2009-03-15T15:55:09Z

‎Conjecture: 4 Hogue gravestones at West Liberty, relationship unknown

Liz: /* Conjecture */ make link to The Magee Family page

2009-03-01T16:49:22Z

‎Conjecture: make link to The Magee Family page

Liz: web site James I Hoge on OneWorld Tree has children Rebecca and Armstrong Hoge; note with children's chart: possibly dau. Rebecca & son Armstrong

2009-03-01T15:53:15Z

web site James I Hoge on OneWorld Tree has children Rebecca and Armstrong Hoge; note with children's chart: possibly dau. Rebecca & son Armstrong

Liz: death date 1877, from ref.13, his will

2009-03-01T03:47:46Z

death date 1877, from ref.13, his will

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-| '''Pennsylvania Land Warrant'''  Page one reads, "[[James Irvin Hogue|James Hoge]] 8 Apr. 1835 Butler Co."   Page two reads, "I, [[James Irvin Hogue|James I. Hoge]] ??? Surveyor of Butler County do hereby certify that the lot of land containing ninety four acres and nintey two perches with the usual allowance? & bounded as above stated and applied for does not appear from the papers, books, and records in my possession to be appropriated by warrant or otherwise, than as stated in the foregoing application and proof of settlement -- [[James Irvin Hogue|James I Hoge]] ??.  Secretary of the land office Samuel Workman - Seal."
+| '''Pennsylvania Land Warrant'''  Page one reads, "[[James Irvin Hogue|James Hoge]] 8 Apr. 1835 Butler Co."   Page two reads, "I, [[James Irvin Hogue|James I. Hoge]] ??? Surveyor of Butler County do hereby certify that the lot of land containing ninety four acres and nintey two perches with the usual allowances & bounded as above stated and applied for does not appear from the papers, books, and records in my possession to be appropriated by warrant or otherwise, than as stated in the foregoing application and proof of settlement -- [[James Irvin Hogue|James I Hoge]] ??.  Secretary of the land office Samuel Workman - Seal."
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-| '''Pennsylvania Land Warrant'''  Page one reads, "[[James Irvin Hogue|James Hoge]] 8 Apr. 1835 Butler Co."   Page two reads, "I, [[James Irvin Hogue|James I. Hoge]] ??? Surveyor of Butler County do hereby certify that the lot of land ???ing ninety four acres and nintey ??? ???? with the usual allowance? ???? as above stated and applied for does not appear from the ??? books, and records in my ???? to be ??? ???? ??? warrant or other ???, than as stated in the ???? application and proof of settlement -- [[James Irvin Hogue|James I Hoge]] ??.  Secretary of the land office Samuel Workman ????."
+| '''Pennsylvania Land Warrant'''  Page one reads, "[[James Irvin Hogue|James Hoge]] 8 Apr. 1835 Butler Co."   Page two reads, "I, [[James Irvin Hogue|James I. Hoge]] ??? Surveyor of Butler County do hereby certify that the lot of land containing ninety four acres and nintey two perches with the usual allowance? & bounded as above stated and applied for does not appear from the papers, books, and records in my possession to be appropriated by warrant or otherwise, than as stated in the foregoing application and proof of settlement -- [[James Irvin Hogue|James I Hoge]] ??.  Secretary of the land office Samuel Workman - Seal."
 | [[File:Land Warrant James Irvin Hogue pg1.jpg|50px|center]] [[File:Land Warrant James Irvin Hogue pg2.jpg|50px|center]]

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 | '''Map of Butler County 1858'''  from surveys of Dunlap, McKee & Scott, butler Co. Courthouse, Reproduction compiled by Violet M. Cobert 2005, Mechling Bookbindery, Chicora, PA.<br>Pg 18, Brady Twp., shows property of Wm Hoge lying in the extreme NW corner of Brady Twp., bordering property of Wm. Hines, Richard Hines (Jr.), and ''James A. Hogg''. (Was Archibald Hogg's name '''James Archibald Hogg'''?  Per the will of James Hoge, James I. Hogg's heirs and William Hogg divided land lying next to Richard Hines.  Other sources say Archibald inherited the home of his father James I. Hogg.)
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 **The Ancestry.com index search gave several Jane Kelly's and Martha Taggarts in Butler Co. in 1850.  The ones cited here are the only ones who were in Slippery Rock Twp and had birth years in the range indicated by earlier census.  It is possible that the women had moved to other townships after marriage.
 | [[Image:1850 census pa butler slippery rock pg 27.jpg|50px|center]] [[Image:1850 census pa butler slippery rock pg 25.jpg|50px|center]] [[Image:1850 census pa butler slippery rock pg 23.jpg|50px|center]]
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 | '''1900 United States Federal Census''', District 92, Worth Twp, Butler Co, PA, page 4.  Census dated 7 June 1900.<br>Lines 62-64: Jane Kelly, head, age 78, b. May 1822, widow, 7 children born, 7 living; Margaret, dau., 45, b. Sept. 1855; Mildred, gr.dau., 15, b. Dec. 1884.  All and parents b. PA, all can read, write and speak English.
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 * [[Archibald Hoge]] born Oct 3, 1818, died Sep. 20, 1895.
 * [[Mary S. Kelly|Mary S.]] wife of A. Hoge died Dec. 27, 1852, aged 30y, 5 m, __ d.
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 |'''Donald Hogue''' Research, including family history from older family members, and visit to McKee family cemetery south of Port Royal, Juniata Co. PA.
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 *John T. Wilson's research in the 1980's included interviews of his Wimer aunts.  (Elizabeth Hogue, his great grandmother, was the wife of Samuel Wimer, Jr.) During the course of this research, he was told that Elizabeth Hogue's father's name was Irvin Hogue. (This verbal communication was transcribed by him as "Urvin" Hogue).  Further clarification was found in a manuscript copy in the family history room of the Butler Library. Prepared by Dr. Egle  for a second volume of his "Pennsylvania Genealogies", but not published before his death, it was compiled in 1921 by Leonard Lytle of Detroit Michingan, from the original manuscript, purchased from Miss Catherine I. Egle. In this manuscript, James Irwin Hogg is  listed as the son of James Hogg and Mary Irvin. (The Irwin/Irvin spellings suggest that the name may have been spelled both ways but the "w" pronounced as "v").
 * For gravestone photos see pages of [[Archibald Hoge]] and [[Mary S. Kelly]]. Mary was a granddaughter of [[Mary Sophia Snyder]], so her middle name is possibly Sophia.
 =Conjecture=
 * See [[The Magee Family]], by Robert Ashley Stevenson, Johnson Publ. Co., Boulder CO. (631 pgs); "The Hogue Family" on pgs. 521-588. This source outlines the Hogue family of Scotland through immigrant William Hoge & wife Barbara Hume, down 5 generations to William Hogue (b. 1833) & wife Mary Stickel who ''resided in Jacksville, Worth Twp., Butler Co. PA, buried West Liberty Cemetery''.  Link between this Hogue family and ours seems likely, but not established.

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	=Research Wishlist=		=Research Wishlist=
	* Burial site, gravestone transcription & photo		* Burial site, gravestone transcription & photo
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		+	===For additional research on the Hogg/Hoge/Hogue surname in Butler Co. PA and earlier, please see: [[Hogg/Hoge/Hogue Research]]===

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-__NOTOC__
+__NOTOC__  {{page complete}}
 James Irvin Hogue went by the name of Irvin, his mother's maiden name.  Unfortunately, his name has been miss-transcribed as James J. Hogue by early researchers, and copied as such in a variety of sources; see Source Notes section.  His signature (as executor of the will of Robert St. Clair) appears below.
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 * For gravestone photos see pages of [[Archibald Hoge]] and [[Mary S. Kelly]]. Mary was a granddaughter of [[Mary Sophia Snyder]], so her middle name is possibly Sophia.
 =Conjecture=
 =Research Wishlist=
 * Burial site, gravestone transcription & photo

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 =Children=
-(all children with [[Margaret St. Clair]])
+(all children with [[Margaret St. Clair]])<br>See below websource W1: possibly daughter Rebecca (b. ~1817) and son Armstrong (b. 1822)
 {| class="wikitable"
 ! Name || Gender || Date of Birth || Birthplace || Spouse || Notes || Sources
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-|  [[Archibald Hoge]]  || M || 3 Oct 1818 || || [[Mary S. Kelly]] || || <sup class="reference">[6][8][18][21]</sup>
+|  [[Archibald Hoge]]  || M || 3 Oct 1818 || || [[Mary S. Kelly]] ||died 20 Sept 1895, Butler Co. PA || <sup class="reference">[6][8][18][21]</sup>
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 |  Mary Hogue  || F || (1815-1825)|| || ||birth order unknown || <sup class="reference">[8][17]</sup>
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 |  [[Jane Hogue]]  || F || May 1822 || || [[Samuel Kelly]] || had 7 children || <sup class="reference">[8][17][19][20]</sup>
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-|  Rachel Hogue  || F || ~1827|| || Samuel Douglass ||had dau. Cordelia<sup class="reference">[13]</sup> || <sup class="reference">[8][17][19]</sup>
+|  Rachel Hogue  || F || ~1827|| || Samuel Douglass ||had dau. Cordelia<sup class="reference">[13]</sup> || <sup class="reference">[8][13]</sup>
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 |  Martha Hogue  || F ||~1828 || || George Taggert || || <sup class="reference">[4][8][19]</sup>
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 ===Source notes===
 * James Irvin Hogue is listed in much of the Hogue/Hogg research as James J. Hoge (''The Wimer Family'', by Paul W. Myers; Western Pennsylvania Genealogical Society Quarterly, Vol. 23 #2, Fall 1996, etc.) James I. Hoge appears in the 1860 census, Brady Twp., Butler Co. PA, and the script does appear to read as James J. Hoge. However, "J" and "I" were often written identically at that time, and any present day researcher, reading the name without resort to other sources, would transcribe the initial as a "J".<br> From the ''JOTS'' publication of the Western Penna Genealogical Society, vol.XV, #1, p.7:  "If you've read old census or other handwritten records, you've noticed that "I" and "J" are often written identicaly.   Paul Talbott sends a copy of the McLean Co. Ill. Geneal. Soc. Newsletter with an articl on that, saying that until well into the 1800's the two were used interchangably as vowels or consonants. It also states that modern German handriting uses the same character in capitals, although differs in lower case."

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 | '''Marriage''' || || || To [[Margaret St. Clair]] || <sup class="reference">[7]</sup>
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-| '''Death''' || ~1880 || || || <sup class="reference">[8]</sup>
+| '''Death''' || 1877 || || || <sup class="reference">[13]</sup>
 |}