Catherine Kline 1838 - Revision history

Liz: /* Source Notes */ correction to note re. calling card book (her husband a cousin)

2008-12-28T21:01:13Z

‎Source Notes: correction to note re. calling card book (her husband a cousin)

Liz: /* Source Notes */ calling cards for Ellen B. Kenemuth, John S. Kinemuth

2008-12-28T20:59:15Z

‎Source Notes: calling cards for Ellen B. Kenemuth, John S. Kinemuth

Liz: /* Children */ source # attrib 3 to John W. Fye

2008-12-28T20:45:43Z

‎Children: source # attrib 3 to John W. Fye

Liz: source note questions re. names & spouses of Ellen/Emma and Lydia/Ellen Fye

2008-12-28T20:19:11Z

source note questions re. names & spouses of Ellen/Emma and Lydia/Ellen Fye

Liz: Note re identity of calling card Fyes; Molly = Milla?

2008-12-28T19:17:33Z

Note re identity of calling card Fyes; Molly = Milla?

Liz: add source Shreffler's "Descendants of Martin Klein"; renumber sources; add children's names, middle names dates etc. from Shreffler; add photo section; lcalling cards Milla J & Francis S Fye

2008-12-28T19:11:06Z

add source Shreffler's "Descendants of Martin Klein"; renumber sources; add children's names, middle names dates etc. from Shreffler; add photo section; lcalling cards Milla J & Francis S Fye

Liz: /* Sources */ page links source 2

2008-03-30T18:39:03Z

‎Sources: page links source 2

Liz: note with #13, 1860 census; source # attribution; residence chart addition

2008-03-30T18:04:20Z

note with #13, 1860 census; source # attribution; residence chart addition

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Brady: fixing spouse name in child list

2008-03-28T13:23:50Z

fixing spouse name in child list

Brady: /* Direct ancestry segment */alignment

2008-03-27T17:34:11Z

‎Direct ancestry segment: alignment

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 * The 1880 census lists a younger daughter named Lydia L Fye, age 8, so born 1872. Source 12/Shreffler lists her name as Ellen.  If in 1880 the family said her name was Lydia Ellen, the census taker may have heard it as Lydia L.  However, that makes two daughters with the name Ellen.    Shreffler does not name her sources;  it is possible that some source has recorded Lydia as "Ellen", and the actual Ellen as "Emma".    Given the 1900 census of John S. Kinnemuth, the wife Emma being born in 1872, is it possible that Emma and Lydia are the same person?
 This naming confusion also calls into question the spouse Harry Rhoades.  Is it possible that Emma is not of this family, and that Rhoades is the husband of Ellen, the older sister?
-* The [[Calling Card Book]] of [[Elizabeth Anna Frederick]], a cousin to the children of Catherine Kline, includes the following cards: Ellen B. Kenemuth, pg.7; John S. Kinemuth, pg. 18; Mr. & Mrs J. Kenemuth, pgs. 2 & 11.
+* The [[Calling Card Book]] of [[Elizabeth Anna Frederick]],her husband a cousin to the children of Catherine Kline, includes the following cards: Ellen B. Kenemuth, pg.7; John S. Kinemuth, pg. 18; Mr. & Mrs J. Kenemuth, pgs. 2 & 11.
 =Conjecture=

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 * John S. Kinnemute (age 32) and wife Emma L (age 28)are listed in the 1900 census, Ashland Twp., Clarion Co. PA.  Emma's age indicates a birth date of 1872, rather than the 1862 date for (Ellen/Emma) the daughter of Jacob Fye & Catherine Kline.
 * The 1880 census lists a younger daughter named Lydia L Fye, age 8, so born 1872. Source 12/Shreffler lists her name as Ellen.  If in 1880 the family said her name was Lydia Ellen, the census taker may have heard it as Lydia L.  However, that makes two daughters with the name Ellen.    Shreffler does not name her sources;  it is possible that some source has recorded Lydia as "Ellen", and the actual Ellen as "Emma".    Given the 1900 census of John S. Kinnemuth, the wife Emma being born in 1872, is it possible that Emma and Lydia are the same person?
 This naming confusion also calls into question the spouse Harry Rhoades.  Is it possible that Emma is not of this family, and that Rhoades is the husband of Ellen, the older sister?
 =Conjecture=

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 ! Name || Gender || Date of Birth || Birthplace || Spouse || Notes || Sources
 |-
-| John Wesley Fye ||M|| 1859     ||Salem Twp., Clarion Co., PA ||  ||died 1933, age 74.  || <sup class="reference"> [4][5][12]</sup>
+| John Wesley Fye ||M|| 1859     ||Salem Twp., Clarion Co., PA ||  ||died 1933, age 74.  || <sup class="reference"> [3][4][5][12]</sup>
 |-
 | Ellen/Emma C. Fye ||F|| ~1862/63     ||Clarion Co., PA ||John Kennemuth ,<br> m. 2 Aug 1890 ||  || <sup class="reference">[4][5] [12]</sup>
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 | Daniel Fye ||M||     ||Clarion Co., PA||  || birth order unknown, died before 1900  || <sup class="reference"> [6][12]</sup>
 |}
 =Photos=
 [[Image:Calling Card Milla J Fye.jpg|150px|left|thumb|Calling card of Milla J. Fye]][[Image:Calling Card Francis S Fye.jpg|150px|left|thumb|Calling card of Francis S. Fye]]<br style="clear:both;"/>

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	=Source Notes=		=Source Notes=
		+	* The oldest daughter is listed in both the 1870 and 1880 census as Ellen or Ellen C. Fye. She's age 8 in 1870, 17 in 1880, so the 1862/63 birth date checks. Source 12/ Shreffler has her listed as Emma C. Fye, born about 1863, who married John Kennemuth. This raises the question of whether there was an Emma C. somewhere in the records (different surname?) who did marry a John Kennemuth, or conversely whether Ellen C. Fye married John Kennemuth. Census evidence of an Emma C. Fye is not found.
		+	* John S. Kinnemute (age 32) and wife Emma L (age 28)are listed in the 1900 census, Ashland Twp., Clarion Co. PA. Emma's age indicates a birth date of 1872, rather than the 1862 date for (Ellen/Emma) the daughter of Jacob Fye & Catherine Kline.
		+	* The 1880 census lists a younger daughter named Lydia L Fye, age 8, so born 1872. Source 12/Shreffler lists her name as Ellen. If in 1880 the family said her name was Lydia Ellen, the census taker may have heard it as Lydia L. However, that makes two daughters with the name Ellen. Shreffler does not name her sources; it is possible that some source has recorded Lydia as "Ellen", and the actual Ellen as "Emma". Given the 1900 census of John S. Kinnemuth, the wife Emma being born in 1872, is it possible that Emma and Lydia are the same person?
		+	This naming confusion also calls into question the spouse Harry Rhoades. Is it possible that Emma is not of this family, and that Rhoades is the husband of Ellen, the older sister?
	=Conjecture=		=Conjecture=

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 |}
 =Photos=
-[[Image:Calling Card Milla J Fye.jpg|150px|left|thumb|Calling card of Mila J. Fye]][[Image:Calling Card Francis S Fye.jpg|150px|left|thumb|Calling card of Francis S. Fye]]
+[[Image:Calling Card Milla J Fye.jpg|150px|left|thumb|Calling card of Milla J. Fye]][[Image:Calling Card Francis S Fye.jpg|150px|left|thumb|Calling card of Francis S. Fye]]<br style="clear:both;"/>
-<br style="clear:both;"/>
 [[Calling Card Book|(See Complete Calling Card Book of Ella A. Frederick)]]
-<br style="clear:both;"/>
+<br style="clear:both;"/> Identities of Francis S. Fye and Milla J. Fye are presently unknown. It is possible that Milla J. Fye is the same person as Molly Fye listed above as daughter of Catherine Kline & Jacob Fye.
 =Places of Residence=

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 ! Name || Gender || Date of Birth || Birthplace || Spouse || Notes || Sources
 |-
-| John W. Fye ||M|| ~1859     ||Clarion, PA ||  ||  || <sup class="reference"> [4][5]</sup>
+| John Wesley Fye ||M|| 1859     ||Salem Twp., Clarion Co., PA ||  ||died 1933, age 74.  || <sup class="reference"> [4][5][12]</sup>
 |-
-| Ellen C. Fye ||F|| ~1862     ||Clarion, PA ||  ||  || <sup class="reference">[4][5] </sup>
+| Ellen/Emma C. Fye ||F|| ~1862/63     ||Clarion Co., PA ||John Kennemuth ,<br> m. 2 Aug 1890 ||  || <sup class="reference">[4][5] [12]</sup>
 |-
-| Sarah Francis Fye ||F|| ~1865     ||Clarion, PA ||  ||  || <sup class="reference">[4][5] </sup>
+| Sarah Francis Fye ||F|| ~1865/66     ||Clarion Co., PA || never married ||  || <sup class="reference">[4][5] [12]</sup>
 |-
-| Elizabeth Jane Fye ||F||  Feb 1868    ||Clarion, PA ||  ||  || <sup class="reference"> [4][5][6]</sup>
+| Elizabeth Jane Fye ||F||  Feb 1868    ||Salem Twp.,Clarion Co., PA ||rev. Harry Faust<br>(1870-1946)  ||died 1935, age 67  || <sup class="reference"> [4][5][6][12]</sup>
 |-
-| William Fye ||M| June, 1870     ||Clarion, PA ||  |||| may have died young<br> not in 1880 census || <sup class="reference"> [4][5] </sup>
+| William Fye ||M| June, 1870     ||Clarion Co., PA ||  |||| may have died young<br> not in 1880 census || <sup class="reference"> [4][5] [12]</sup>
 |-
-| Lydia L. Fye ||F|| ~1872    ||Clarion, PA ||  ||  || <sup class="reference">[5] </sup>
+| Lydia L./Ellen Fye ||F|| ~1872    ||Clarion, PA ||Harry Rhoades  ||  || <sup class="reference">[5][12] </sup>
 |-
-| Calvin H. Fye ||M|| Dec 1873   ||Clarion, PA ||  ||  || <sup class="reference">[5][6] </sup>
+| Calvin H. Fye ||M|| Dec 1873   ||Salem Twp. Clarion Co., PA || Claudia Carpenter (b. 1878) || died 1952, age 79 || <sup class="reference">[5][6][12] </sup>
 |-
-| Nora P. Fye ||F|| Aug 1878    ||Clarion, PA ||  ||  || <sup class="reference">[5][6] </sup>
+| Nora P. Fye ||F|| Aug 1878    ||Salem Twp. Clarion Co., PA  ||Oliver J. Goodman (1878-1954)  ||died 1965, age 87;<br>bur. Venus Cemeetery  || <sup class="reference">[5][6][12] </sup>
 |-
-| Ira W. Fye ||M|| Apr 1881    ||Clarion, PA || Hariet C. unknown  ||  || <sup class="reference"> [6][7]</sup>
+| Ira W. Fye ||M||7 Apr 1881    ||Clarion Co., PA || 1)Hariet C. Day;<br>2)Beulah Books   ||died 1964, age 83;<br>bur. Ashland Twp.  || <sup class="reference"> [6][7][12]</sup>
 |-
-| Unknown Fye ||?||     ||Clarion, PA ||  || birth order unknown, died before 1900  || <sup class="reference"> [6]</sup>
+| Molly Fye ||F||     ||Clarion Co., PA|| never married || birth order unknown, died before 1900  || <sup class="reference"> [6][12]</sup>
 |-
-| Unknown Fye ||?||     ||Clarion, PA ||  || birth order unknown, died before 1900  || <sup class="reference"> [6]</sup>
+| Daniel Fye ||M||     ||Clarion Co., PA||  || birth order unknown, died before 1900  || <sup class="reference"> [6][12]</sup>
 |}
+=Photos=
 =Places of Residence=
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 |-
 !'''9'''
-|'''Personal correspondence''' and research of Nancy E. Beals Walls, Emlenton, PA, 1991-ongoing. Her assistance in finding the farms, cemeteries, and church records of Clarion & Venango counties has been invaluable.  Nancy is descended from [[Winnifred May Kline]] and [[James Elgie Beals]].
+|'''Personal correspondence''' and research of Nancy E. Beals Walls, Emlenton, PA, 1991-ongoing, plus assistance in locating farms, cemeteries, and church records of Clarion & Venango counties .  Nancy is descended from [[Winnifred May Kline]] and [[James Elgie Beals]].   Nancy provided record copies of St. Paul's Lutheran & Reformed Churches; see below.
-*"John & Anna Kline first settled at Wentlings Corners (Beaver Twp., south of Knox)., near the Twin Churches", (i.e. St. Paul's Lutheran & Reformed Churches). Nancy provided copy of records of St. Paul's Lutheran & Reformed Churches; see below.
+|
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 |-
 !'''11'''
-|'''Research Manuscript of [[Ella May Beals]] (Wilson)''' researched 1975-1985, including personal knowledge and interviews of her siblings Robert Beals and Bertha Beals (Chambers), and of her aunt Mary P. Kline (Fillgrove).
+|'''Research Manuscript of [[Ella May Beals]] (Wilson)''' researched 1975-1985, including personal knowledge and interviews of her siblings Robert Beals and Bertha Beals (Chambers), and of her aunt [[Mary Philistia Kline|Mary P. Kline]] (Fillgrove).
+|
 |-
-! '''12'''
+! '''13'''
 | '''Personal correspondence''' from [[Elizabeth Ann Wilson|Elizabeth Wilson Williams]],descendant of John Abram Kline, granddaughter of Winnifred May Kline. Visited Zion's Lutheran Church graveyard; reviewed church records at Lehigh Co. Historical Society, in Lehigh Co., 1991, in company of Nancy Beals Walls & Ella Beals Wilson.
+|
 |-
-!'''13'''
+!'''14'''
 |'''1860 United States Federal Census''',  PA Clarion Co. Ashland Twp. pg.5, ln 11-22. Date of Census 5 July 1860.<br>[[John Klein|John Kline]], 59 M Farmer, real estate value $1000, personal estate value $200; [[Anna Fenstermacher|Ann Kline]], 53F; [[Henry Kline|Henry]]33M; Rebecca 31F; [[Jacob Kline|Jacob]] 29M; Maria 27F; '''Catherine''' 25F; [[Susannah Kline|Susanna]] 23 F; James 18M; Elizabeth 14F; Sarah 12 F; William 10 M.  All born in PA.
 * Catharine is already married to Jacob Fye and enumerated elsewhere, as are several of her siblings listed here.  Apparently John Kline listed all his children for this census, whether living at home or not.

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 |-
 !'''2'''
-|'''1850 United States Federal Census''' PA  Clarion Co. Elk Twp., pg 471-236. Date of census  7 Sept. 1850. [[John Klein|John Kline]] age 48, Farmer, $325 value real estate; wife [[Anna Fenstermacher|Anna]] age 44, can't read or write; children: [[Henry Kline|Henry]] age 23, Farmer; [[Jacob Kline|Jacob]] age 19, Farmer; [[Maria Kline|Maria]] age 18; '''Catherine''' age 12; Eliza age 10; [[Susannah Kline|Susanna]] age 8; James age 6; Elizabeth age 4; Sarah age 2.  All born PA
+|'''1850 United States Federal Census''' PA  Clarion Co. Elk Twp., pg 471-236. Date of census  7 Sept. 1850. [[John Klein|John Kline]] age 48, Farmer, $325 value real estate; wife [[Anna Fenstermacher|Anna]] age 44, can't read or write; children: [[Henry Kline|Henry]] age 23, Farmer; [[Jacob Kline|Jacob]] age 19, Farmer; [[Maria Kline|Maria]] age 18; '''Catherine''' age 12; [[Elizabeth Ann "Eliza" Kline|Eliza]] age 10; [[Susannah Kline|Susanna]] age 8; [[James Kline|James]] age 6; [[Elizabeth J. Kline|Elizabeth]] age 4; [[Sarah Jane Kline|Sarah]] age 2.  All born PA
 |[[Image:1850 census pa clarion elk pg 471-236.jpg|50px|left]]
 |-

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 =Children=
-( children with  Abraham Richards)
+( children with  Jacob Fye)
 {| class="wikitable"
 ! Name || Gender || Date of Birth || Birthplace || Spouse || Notes || Sources

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-                          +-- [[John Klein]]
+                       +-- [[John Klein]]
-                          |   (1801-<1877)
+                       |   (1801-<1877)
    +--'''Catherine Kline'''---+
-   |  (1838-????)          |
+   |  (1838-????)       |
-   |                       +-- [[Anna Fenstermacher]]
+   |                    +-- [[Anna Fenstermacher]]
    |                        (1806-????)
+   |